stalling harder than a legless man driving stick
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this past month ive been stuck. currently testing reta at 6. ss31. and aod 250mcg twice daily. and for the life of me as soon as i see some progress it swings up sometimes as much as 5 pounds. drinking a gallon of water a day. fasting for aod. and eating smaller meals within a short window. no stall break. any ideas? im at the "alright now im not asking" phase of this stall. tips tricks and prayers would be welcomed haha.
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You’re not alone. Started with .5. Held 2,3, and 4 for a month before uping dose. Currently holding at 4. Can actually eat meals now without gaining though, so that’s a plus.
Are you also taking waist circumference? My rat has lost 3” around their waist, so it’s still doing something even though not as fast as I’ve seen from other researchers.
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I hear ya! It's been a real challenge trying to break this stall since November. 5th week into Reta, and I'm having insane cravings for Pizza and chocolate. I've never been a sweets person, so this is new to me. Completely different from my experience with Tirz(lost 95lbs) but still have 50+ (yes 50+ lol) to go! I'd still be on it if I hadn't quit responding to it. I did a cycle of 5 amino, scale didn't move either way so that was a plus. Going to try the 16/8 intermittent fasting again, see if that will jump start anything and probably another cycle of 5 amino. Did order some Cag to have on hand. But that will come much later, I'm not at a therapeutic dose yet with Reta.
The swings in the scale may be inflammation or water retention depending on what you eat.
How long have you been at 6mg? I've read several articles around the transition doses, 6mg being one of them before you see the metabolic effects at higher doses. Some people are just lucky and experienced that right away which makes me envious.
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You’re not alone. Started with .5. Held 2,3, and 4 for a month before uping dose. Currently holding at 4. Can actually eat meals now without gaining though, so that’s a plus.
Are you also taking waist circumference? My rat has lost 3” around their waist, so it’s still doing something even though not as fast as I’ve seen from other researchers.
@MyB of course 10 hours after i posted this my ts dropped another 3. go figure.
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I hear ya! It's been a real challenge trying to break this stall since November. 5th week into Reta, and I'm having insane cravings for Pizza and chocolate. I've never been a sweets person, so this is new to me. Completely different from my experience with Tirz(lost 95lbs) but still have 50+ (yes 50+ lol) to go! I'd still be on it if I hadn't quit responding to it. I did a cycle of 5 amino, scale didn't move either way so that was a plus. Going to try the 16/8 intermittent fasting again, see if that will jump start anything and probably another cycle of 5 amino. Did order some Cag to have on hand. But that will come much later, I'm not at a therapeutic dose yet with Reta.
The swings in the scale may be inflammation or water retention depending on what you eat.
How long have you been at 6mg? I've read several articles around the transition doses, 6mg being one of them before you see the metabolic effects at higher doses. Some people are just lucky and experienced that right away which makes me envious.
@WisGal64 2 weeks. working on 3 this week
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update. i broke the stall. finally. thats relieving!
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And were back up. The weight swings from morning to night are insane. 2 scales to confirm. 5 to 6 pounds from morning and night. Usually i had about a 2 to 4 pound swing. Only thing ive changed is daily weightlifting. And possibly more beef in my diet.
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And were back up. The weight swings from morning to night are insane. 2 scales to confirm. 5 to 6 pounds from morning and night. Usually i had about a 2 to 4 pound swing. Only thing ive changed is daily weightlifting. And possibly more beef in my diet.
@quicksilver80 Do you take creatine supplements? That can cause water retention and such weight swings.
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Havent in a while. Only stuff im testing is epicatechin, ss31, and rt6mg. Only thing ive changed is mostly more gym.
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"Yes, the concept of your body going into "fat preservation mode"—often referred to as metabolic adaptation or adaptive thermogenesis—is a real evolutionary response to starvation. When severely underfed, your body slows down its daily energy expenditure and becomes highly efficient at holding onto its emergency fat reserves.The Science of Metabolic AdaptationWhen you drastically reduce your caloric intake, your body initiates a series of survival mechanisms:Metabolic Slowdown: To conserve energy, your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) drops. Your body burns fewer calories doing the same daily tasks it used to.Hormonal Shifts: Levels of leptin (the satiety hormone) plummet, while ghrelin (the hunger hormone) spikes. This intense hunger forces you to seek out food.Muscle Breakdown: While fat is fiercely protected as a vital, long-term energy store, your body will readily break down lean muscle tissue to supply essential glucose needs.Fat Resistance: Studies—such as those on intermittent fasting conducted by the University of Sydney—show that certain fat deposits, particularly visceral "belly fat," actively adapt to fasting periods by resisting the release of fatty acids. They do this to ensure they can rebuild stores as quickly as possible once food is reintroduced"
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add MOTSC, 5 Amino 1mq w AOD or even better than AOD, Slu-pp-332. You want to obliterate fat? add Cardarine. For dosages do your homework and tritate low until you find the sweetspot. If you cant do bloodwork, just be patient.
@martinmarin when googling cardarine it looks about as sketchy with sides as dnp in Googles eyes. Would probably mess with it if i knew i wouldn't end up in the hospital since reta already has heart sides.
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@martinmarin when googling cardarine it looks about as sketchy with sides as dnp in Googles eyes. Would probably mess with it if i knew i wouldn't end up in the hospital since reta already has heart sides.
@quicksilver80 I used cardarine a few time and great at small dosages. Not to sit around on for sure. Reta? Reta is amazing. If you stopped at the heart rate with a ridiculous dosages no wonder. You need to dial reta right. Find the sweet spot everyone is talking about. You need to titrate up starting at 5.mg. most sweet spots are at 1mg. Mine is at 2mg two month in now. Hungry enough and fill up quick. Enough to get your proteins and micro nutrients to prevent muscle loss. Compulsive munching gone. All while burning fat 24/7. The fat loss is just one of what it really does. Fatty liver gone, kidneys, insulin sensitivity.... Sign me up!
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@quicksilver80 I used cardarine a few time and great at small dosages. Not to sit around on for sure. Reta? Reta is amazing. If you stopped at the heart rate with a ridiculous dosages no wonder. You need to dial reta right. Find the sweet spot everyone is talking about. You need to titrate up starting at 5.mg. most sweet spots are at 1mg. Mine is at 2mg two month in now. Hungry enough and fill up quick. Enough to get your proteins and micro nutrients to prevent muscle loss. Compulsive munching gone. All while burning fat 24/7. The fat loss is just one of what it really does. Fatty liver gone, kidneys, insulin sensitivity.... Sign me up!
@martinmarin yeah im currently researching reta. 8mg still groovin just fine. May look into cardarine. Thanks for the info
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@martinmarin yeah im currently researching reta. 8mg still groovin just fine. May look into cardarine. Thanks for the info
@quicksilver80 Bro 8mg is alot. Dialed it down to 4mg the most and you will still get the same results. Add MOTS, 5amino 1mq and Slu-pp-332 or AOD-9604 or Cardarine. You will scorch fat as energy. Energy to the roof. If you ever done a kedo diet. And i mean hitting ketosis. Fat as fuel will ATP way better than carbs. The good thing is you have options. These are from personal experience. Just titrate up til you find the sweet spot. 8mg bro, i couldn't get pass 3.5mg of reta. I has the skin sensation thing. I had to dial down. I have
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Aod did zero for me. Unfortunately. Im just following the study titration schedule. Started at 2 and upped 2 every 4 weeks. Haven't had any side effects other than one week of constipation that was remedied with a digestive enzyme and what i call enough miralax to make tubgirl blush. Im most likely stopping short at 10 because the stats just arent worth the money going toward 12+
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Anytime I stall I eat something a bit sweet, or piece of pizza, or something that makes my system relax. You don't go all out and eat the whole pizza but just enough to signal to body that all is okay. Next 36 hrs., back on the program and overnight will drop 2+ pounds.
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Anytime I stall I eat something a bit sweet, or piece of pizza, or something that makes my system relax. You don't go all out and eat the whole pizza but just enough to signal to body that all is okay. Next 36 hrs., back on the program and overnight will drop 2+ pounds.
@Eleanor yep i can tell when im about to drop. Cold feet. Pee all day. - 2 every time.
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@Eleanor yep i can tell when im about to drop. Cold feet. Pee all day. - 2 every time.
@quicksilver80
My favorite relief program is a Dutch Bros, largest iced Maple Waffle latte with no added sugar, soft top with caramel and salt on top and 4 hits of expresso. I'll make that last for about 2 days. Those visceral fat cells cheer me on big time, just before they liquify and go into the potty.
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