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Can a Peptide Pen Handle Testosterone? I Tested It

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  • T theckman80

    Im currently using a xulin pen for test-cip at 14iu per day of 200mg/ml Sub-q. I use 30ga gluco-care needles and I have to let the needle stay in my belly for 30-40 seconds or so to make sure I dont leave pressure in the vial and an inaccurate does in my belly. I'm a fan of injecting daily.

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    kenhnsy
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    @theckman80 said:

    I'm a fan of injecting daily.

    Are you using an aromatase inhibitor? I've done both schedules and still feel high estradiol. DIM helps. The gurus conflict on this topic.

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    • kenhnsyK kenhnsy

      @theckman80 said:

      I'm a fan of injecting daily.

      Are you using an aromatase inhibitor? I've done both schedules and still feel high estradiol. DIM helps. The gurus conflict on this topic.

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      NobleONe
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      @kenhnsy I've had the goal of getting off of an AI. I take DIM, but I still needed AI.
      I am at a point where I can almost be entirely off of it, but lowered my T dose to 90mg/week, 3x pokes EOD

      I still feel great and labs are good floating around 1050. Just need to keep confirming my E2+symptoms are where I want to be at

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      • kenhnsyK kenhnsy

        @theckman80 said:

        I'm a fan of injecting daily.

        Are you using an aromatase inhibitor? I've done both schedules and still feel high estradiol. DIM helps. The gurus conflict on this topic.

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        theckman80
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        @kenhnsy you know, I found less need for an AI when I went to daily injections. My estradiol came down, my Endo said it was because I want spiking my Test through the roof and the letting it fall over the week. Its also really nice because I can go do my labs whenever I want now.

        Its pretty interesting. Also, if im a big dummy and for get a day, its not as big of a deal, if i forget a couple days in a row, I will take my AI and take double my daily dose and then go back to normal dosing schedule.

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          diegoc
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          Ive tested all the pens, needle size and injection site areas.

          Now for this to work properly you need a 29g needle and preferably testosterone in MCT oil.

          The best route of delivery.
          Auto injection pen
          29g 1/2”
          Ventral glute.

          This gives you a precise dose and your able to inject without being a contortionist.

          2nd option.
          Auto injection pen
          29g 1/2”
          Delts
          A little more uncomfortable but doable.

          Other options.
          Regular pen- too hard to push very uncomfortable
          Subq- not as precise in dose.

          Right now im preloading exactly my dose im 31g 1/2” and i inject in the ventral glute and im loving it.

          Oh and i do daily shots, and been doing this for 20years so im going for the least amount of friction as possible

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          • D diegoc

            Ive tested all the pens, needle size and injection site areas.

            Now for this to work properly you need a 29g needle and preferably testosterone in MCT oil.

            The best route of delivery.
            Auto injection pen
            29g 1/2”
            Ventral glute.

            This gives you a precise dose and your able to inject without being a contortionist.

            2nd option.
            Auto injection pen
            29g 1/2”
            Delts
            A little more uncomfortable but doable.

            Other options.
            Regular pen- too hard to push very uncomfortable
            Subq- not as precise in dose.

            Right now im preloading exactly my dose im 31g 1/2” and i inject in the ventral glute and im loving it.

            Oh and i do daily shots, and been doing this for 20years so im going for the least amount of friction as possible

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            NobleONe
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            @diegoc Awesome, thanks for this!

            Do you leave the needle in after the pen clicks down to 0? I've been counting to 10, but not sure if that's giving me too much of a dose

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              bangkokiscool
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              29G 1/2" VG. My exact protocol for test-c in mct. Super easy, virtually painless. I do use a manual pen though, i find being able to go slow, pause in the middle, reduces any bumps or PIP. Especially if the test is mixed in with a little something extra sometimes, also in MCT.

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                HockeyRat
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                Im pinning my test daily. Initially tried the Gansulin pen but wasn’t confident in the dosing and I didn’t take the time to test accuracy. Also wasn’t a fan of the quick auto injection. Switched to a V2 for a couple weeks and like the ability to slowly inject to prevent lumps. Currently using a Xulin pen with 29g 5/8 inch pen tips, I also take the pen and put it in a baby wipes warmer for 5-10 minutes to warm the oil. Loving it and having no issues.
                What’s everyones opinion on the best quality manual injection pen? The Xulin is nice but wondering if there is something better.

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                  diegoc
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                  If your adding special sauces to your test, then i highly recommend to pin in a syringe not a pen.

                  Several reasons….

                  Im ok with mix liquids with test in the same syringe however not mixed in a pen for days.

                  Also when you pin test with a water base you have the water go in first. Liquid with the least resistance, then the oil travels last. So you need a syringe to empty and a pen you cant

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                    RussBechthold
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                    thanks for posting this

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                    • H HockeyRat

                      Im pinning my test daily. Initially tried the Gansulin pen but wasn’t confident in the dosing and I didn’t take the time to test accuracy. Also wasn’t a fan of the quick auto injection. Switched to a V2 for a couple weeks and like the ability to slowly inject to prevent lumps. Currently using a Xulin pen with 29g 5/8 inch pen tips, I also take the pen and put it in a baby wipes warmer for 5-10 minutes to warm the oil. Loving it and having no issues.
                      What’s everyones opinion on the best quality manual injection pen? The Xulin is nice but wondering if there is something better.

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                      mrjoshua44
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                      @HockeyRat At this point I do believe that the Xulin and the V4 are my two favorites to use. The V4 is just so buttery smooth just like the Xulin.

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                      • mrjoshua44M mrjoshua44

                        @kenhnsy That's cool! I'm all about filtering, but if I were you, and you're going to filter your trt, I would use a 25mm PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene) .22 micron filter. It's considered the best choice for oil-based solutions like trt.

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                        kenhnsy
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                        @mrjoshua44 said:

                        use a 25mm PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene) .22 micron filter.

                        I did this and it was much less pressure on the filter. Thanks.

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                          Bump and sub! I just started self administering IM 5x/wk using insulin syringes. Doable, but am hoping a pen will work.

                          I take only .5ml a week, so each day is a tiny .1ml. Maybe too small for a pen.

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                            Falc
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                            I use a V2 with a 29G, 1/2-Inch in the lateral thigh, never have an issue. The carrier in the testc that I use is MCT so it is a little less viscous than some other carriers.

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                            • FalcF Falc

                              I use a V2 with a 29G, 1/2-Inch in the lateral thigh, never have an issue. The carrier in the testc that I use is MCT so it is a little less viscous than some other carriers.

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                              diegoc
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                              @Falc its awesome you find a rhythm shooting your Test.

                              The more real estate rotation is better. 💪

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                                ursus
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                                I didn’t even consider a pen. I suppose Mct based would flow best. Any issues with PIP? Sometimes the shallow IM can cause pip

                                Even backfilling syringes was discouraged if longer than 24hours in case the rubber would degrade also the open handling invites possible contamination.

                                Idk daily or every other day micro dosing is the way to go.

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                                  SpaceGhost
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                                  I’ve been doing a week’s worth in a syringe then using a new needle each day. Like this: https://youtu.be/boONIoioizM?is=IRe6uQBPI_ZFWg5N. Have a V4 on order to try with this.

                                  My cipionate is from Walmart. Don’t know what the oil is. Penzoil? MCT would be great.

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                                    diegoc
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                                    What size needle?

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                                      SpaceGhost
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                                      I think it is 31 by 1/2 inch.

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                                        diegoc
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                                        I think you need to be sure….

                                        Were are you injecting this shot?

                                        Frequency?

                                        Dose?

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                                          32x.5”. Dose is .5ml weekly, which I am currently administering in .1ml doses (10 units) five days a week. Shots are IM in quads and sometimes bicep.

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