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    kenhnsy
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    If the motivation of this topic is primarily to reduce stinging, I recommend a longer needle in a definite fatty area - butt cheeks. You will naturally diffuse it while driving to work. Ever since I went to 8mm Novafine (ceramic coated) needles for GHKCu, AOD, and NAD+, my girlfriend's big brown beaver reports very little stinging and no more welts. And this is simple to try.
    Yes. Beavers. They can talk.

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    • E Eleanor

      I would not use NaCl Bac on NAD+. Have no idea why it's stating "SALINE HEAVILY PREF"?

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      @Eleanor Interestingly, in my first vial of buffered NAD I used NaCL bac water and it went fine without issues. I was thinking of this thread when i recon-ed my second vial and decided to use normal BAC water, both are Hospira.

      Dosing at the same dose daily, I am getting much more stinging and legit bruising now using the normal BAC water. I did a little research about it and the interweb gods tell me that it can be expected with normal BAC water with NAD.

      Not sure its true or not, but i can tell you my N=1 experience. Thought I would share.

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      • E Eleanor

        Both MOTS and SS31 favor saline BAC, although I reconned the last batch of SS31 w/regular & it's fine.

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        #39

        @Eleanor My first vial of SS-31 was with sodium chloride, but on reconning my second I grabbed (by habit) my bac water. So I decided to try it and see how different it would be. Like you said, it really wasn't that different. I would say the irritation was noticeable for about 30 minutes with sodium chloride and about an hour for bac. I will admit though that reconned with twice as much bac as sodium chloride.

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          @Eleanor My first vial of SS-31 was with sodium chloride, but on reconning my second I grabbed (by habit) my bac water. So I decided to try it and see how different it would be. Like you said, it really wasn't that different. I would say the irritation was noticeable for about 30 minutes with sodium chloride and about an hour for bac. I will admit though that reconned with twice as much bac as sodium chloride.

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          @Nuncles I had a similar experience but have not noticed any sort of difference at all.

          @jtcjeff NAD+ buf doesn't bother me regardless of the BAC I use, I use a lot of it. Problem solved.

          Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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            Just out of curiosity what vender sells saline BAC?

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              Just out of curiosity what vender sells saline BAC?

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              @charlescoyle peptidetest, it's the sodium chloride bac

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                Top 20 Peptides: Reconstitution Compatibility Chart

                I converted it to text so it is searchable and easier to discuss. This is a transcription of the chartβ€”not an endorsement or independently verified protocol. If anyone has manufacturer instructions, stability studies, pharmacopeial references, or other primary sources supporting or contradicting these entries, please share them.

                Peptide / Compound BAC Water BAC Saline Acetic Acid Chart’s Quick Verdict
                Tirzepatide 🟒 Safe 🟒 Safe βšͺ Unnecessary Saline reduces sting
                Semaglutide 🟒 Safe 🟒 Safe βšͺ Unnecessary Saline reduces sting
                Retatrutide 🟒 Safe 🟒 Safe βšͺ Unnecessary Saline reduces sting
                BPC-157 🟒 Safe 🟒 Safe βšͺ Unnecessary Highly stable in both
                TB-500 (Thymosin Beta-4) 🟒 Safe 🟒 Safe βšͺ Unnecessary Highly stable in both
                CJC-1295 (No DAC/DAC) 🟒 Safe 🟒 Safe βšͺ Unnecessary Saline reduces sting
                Ipamorelin 🟒 Safe 🟒 Safe βšͺ Unnecessary Saline reduces sting
                Sermorelin 🟒 Safe 🟒 Safe βšͺ Unnecessary Fully compatible
                Tesamorelin 🟒 Safe 🟑 Caution βšͺ Unnecessary Saline slows mixing time
                NAD+ (Coenzyme) 🟒 Safe 🟒 Safe βšͺ Unnecessary Saline heavily preferred
                Melanotan II 🟒 Safe 🟒 Safe βšͺ Unnecessary Highly soluble
                PT-141 (Bremelanotide) 🟒 Safe 🟒 Safe βšͺ Unnecessary Fully compatible
                AOD9604 🟒 Safe 🟑 Caution πŸ”΅ Required Acid prevents clumping
                Frag 176-191 🟒 Safe 🟑 Caution πŸ”΅ Required Acid prevents clumping
                IGF-1 LR3/DES πŸ”΄ Avoid πŸ”΄ Avoid πŸ”΅ Required Acid prevents decay
                Kisspeptin-10 🟒 Safe 🟒 Safe πŸ”΅ Recommended Acid enhances stability/solubility
                GHK-C (Copper Peptide) 🟒 Safe πŸ”΄ Avoid βšͺ Unnecessary Salt precipitates blue
                MOTS-c 🟒 Safe πŸ”΄ Avoid βšͺ Unnecessary Salt causes gel formation
                HCG 🟒 Safe 🟑 Caution βšͺ Unnecessary Standard BAC preserves longer
                hGH (Recombinant 191-AA) 🟒 Safe πŸ”΄ Avoid πŸ”΄ Avoid Salt/acid denatures protein

                Key Used in the Original Graphic

                • 🟒 Safe: Presented as a compatible reconstitution solvent.
                • πŸ”΅ Required/Recommended: The chart specifies diluted 0.6% acetic acid for stability or solubility.
                • 🟑 Caution: The chart generally favors standard BAC water.
                • βšͺ Unnecessary: The chart says this solvent is not needed.
                • πŸ”΄ Avoid: The chart claims the solvent may damage, denature, gel, or precipitate the compound.

                Important Caveat

                The word β€œsafe” in the table only reproduces the label used by the original graphic. It should not be interpreted as proof that a preparation is sterile, stable, appropriately preserved, compatible with a particular product, or safe for human use.

                Compatibility can depend on the exact formulation, salt form, concentration, pH, excipients, storage temperature, container, intended route, and manufacturer instructions. Bacteriostatic water and bacteriostatic saline are also not interchangeable in every situation.

                This post is for research and discussion purposes only and is not medical, prescribing, compounding, or administration advice.

                Does anyone have primary-source stability or compatibility data for these entriesβ€”especially AOD9604, Frag 176-191, IGF-1 LR3/DES, GHK-Cu, MOTS-c, and hGH?

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                  Anyone have experience with mots-c and saline

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                    Anyone have experience with mots-c and saline

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                    @Stevepep just this past Thursday I reconned a 40mg mots-c from southern aminos with saline bac, took 5mg's and had a mild histamine reaction. Pen vial looks fine so far fwiw.

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                      Anyone have experience with mots-c and saline

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                      @Stevepep I use it for SS-31 and NAD+buf, with great results and plan to use it on MOTS-C as well.

                      A site I frequent often, suggests it for all three.

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                        Here's some good info on matter.

                        https://peptidefox.com/content/reconstitution

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                        • mrjoshua44M mrjoshua44

                          Here's some good info on matter.

                          https://peptidefox.com/content/reconstitution

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                          @mrjoshua44 If these guys try to get me on the $9 monthly fee one more time. Jeez, they don't stop. Other than that its great. Also, the nonsense on Amino Research for peptides has me thinking they are somehow involved that doesn't change its a cool resource, though

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                          • mrjoshua44M mrjoshua44

                            Here's some good info on matter.

                            https://peptidefox.com/content/reconstitution

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                            @mrjoshua44
                            Do you use gloves to reconstitute?

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                              @mrjoshua44
                              Do you use gloves to reconstitute?

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                              @mmp Yes I do.

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                                @mrjoshua44
                                Do you use gloves to reconstitute?

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                                @mmp I struggle with that because the gloves may be less sanitary than washing your hands

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                                • mrjoshua44M mrjoshua44

                                  @mmp Yes I do.

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                                  @mrjoshua44 said:

                                  @mmp Yes I do.

                                  What is the reasoning? The gloves dont come sterile. Are you washing the gloves?

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