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    @aj-kovera-labs - Kovera Labs
    Question on your pricing. Is it $200 for Mass and Purity for a single compound (Like Mots-C) and $250 for a multi compound like KLOW?
    Don’t be defensive here, multiple people on this site are going to try you out. Jano is falling out of favor for a couple of reasons, one he is in a different country and shipping to him is a pain in the ass, two his prices are outrageous. Labs like yours, Freedom, ILS, BT, ect.. have an opportunity to step in and step up and carve yourself out a good chunk of business. We need a US base “Gold Standard” . Survive the Gauntlet and you will surely do well. Although there are a couple labs with better pricing competing with you right now. I believe ILS Labs is $150, I think AFi is also somewhere around that too.
    I personally only use Freedom here in the US, only because I have used them a bunch of times already, no reason to switch. They are $225. Unless a lab comes in at $150 and has proven themselves, no reason for me to switch.
    That is my example on why you want to handle this situation correctly. Once people find who they like, they stuck with them until there is a good reason switch ($25 to me is not a good reason). You could do nicely here, if you act accordingly…
    Just my 2 cents, not worth much at all, it can’t even buy you a coffee….

    Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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      @aj-kovera-labs - Kovera Labs
      Question on your pricing. Is it $200 for Mass and Purity for a single compound (Like Mots-C) and $250 for a multi compound like KLOW?
      Don’t be defensive here, multiple people on this site are going to try you out. Jano is falling out of favor for a couple of reasons, one he is in a different country and shipping to him is a pain in the ass, two his prices are outrageous. Labs like yours, Freedom, ILS, BT, ect.. have an opportunity to step in and step up and carve yourself out a good chunk of business. We need a US base “Gold Standard” . Survive the Gauntlet and you will surely do well. Although there are a couple labs with better pricing competing with you right now. I believe ILS Labs is $150, I think AFi is also somewhere around that too.
      I personally only use Freedom here in the US, only because I have used them a bunch of times already, no reason to switch. They are $225. Unless a lab comes in at $150 and has proven themselves, no reason for me to switch.
      That is my example on why you want to handle this situation correctly. Once people find who they like, they stuck with them until there is a good reason switch ($25 to me is not a good reason). You could do nicely here, if you act accordingly…
      Just my 2 cents, not worth much at all, it can’t even buy you a coffee….

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      @Commander just used ILS for 3 vials. It’s was $150 plus $50 for each additional vial of the same product. Basically conformity testing for those additional 2. Endotoxin is $150 as is sterility. I should have results today or tomorrow. Their website is terrific for tracking etc. I have used Freedom as well and they were great.

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        @glacieraminos-gmail.com Thanks so much for responding here. I sent an email and posted on Facebook. More so because I didn't want this to go on without some context. You are my go-to for single vials for research. I recommend you guys all the time to newbies, etc

        @aj-kovera-labs Relax, Jeff is doing you a great service. Free publicity. Keep in mind, we all send stuff to be tested. I have 6 vials out right now at ILS. This is the best Peptide community, it has its expert researchers and those just getting started. You never know who starts the next Glacier, It could be one of us. No need to piss on the people trying to help. There are people saying your lab creates fake COA's you should be getting in front of it.

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        @Stevepep Thank you very much my friend it is possible we missed it and I completely apologize as sometimes I'm pulled in 1000 different directions but just know you're not falling on deaf ears. Thank you

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          if this user @aj-kovera-labs was indeed related to that Kovera Labs, I would think it wasn't the most impressive performance to show up, get offended for an unclear reason and disappear without explaining anything. Now I am kind of inclined to be a little skeptical of this company's COAs on sites, while before this appearance I liked its certificates the most and only had some slight concerns.

          attentiion is all you need

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            I'm not sure why any of you haven't tried to reach out to me instead of huddling up on here and speculating.
            I'm pretty easy to get a hold of: email, WhatsApp, or TikTok are the preferred means.

            @randy I called and was sent to voicemail

            This is Aj btw, owner and founder of Kovera Labs. Hope you all have a great week.

            [email protected]
            wa.me/12245843804
            https://www.tiktok.com/@kovera.labs?_r=1&_t=ZP-974Y7lNxJcc

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            @Aj-Kovera-Labs said:
            This is Aj btw, owner and founder of Kovera Labs. Hope you all have a great week.

            Then who the hell is David Cohen?? the signature of the fictitious person on your COA's?

            Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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              I tried this lab. Had an issue, tried to get in touch with someone there, no reply from multiple emails. And I used the request correction button for the COA - Nothing… Stay Away

              Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                He never delivered the tests we paid for either. Over a month later. No responses to emails.

                Guys... I learned how to do a chargeback at 41.

                "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                  Is there even anyone actually at this place? Probably not… I am starting to think samples arrive there, get thrown in the garbage and they just make up numbers. If we only had a comparison of this lab to others, we might know...

                  Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                    He never delivered the tests we paid for either. Over a month later. No responses to emails.

                    Guys... I learned how to do a chargeback at 41.

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                    @Randy color me surprised 🙄

                    Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                    • RandyR Randy

                      He never delivered the tests we paid for either. Over a month later. No responses to emails.

                      Guys... I learned how to do a chargeback at 41.

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                      @Randy said:

                      I learned how to do a chargeback at 41

                      I hope it's not something sexual?

                      attentiion is all you need

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                      • RandyR Randy

                        He never delivered the tests we paid for either. Over a month later. No responses to emails.

                        Guys... I learned how to do a chargeback at 41.

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                        @Randy Poor Glaciar, those guys are great over there.

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                          He never delivered the tests we paid for either. Over a month later. No responses to emails.

                          Guys... I learned how to do a chargeback at 41.

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                            He never delivered the tests we paid for either. Over a month later. No responses to emails.

                            Guys... I learned how to do a chargeback at 41.

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                            @Randy That's incredibly unprofessional. I'm going to steer clear of vendors using Kovera. This is a gigantic trust issue.

                            I have a handful of vials with Kovera COAs in my current stock but going to stay away going forward.

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                              @gym.rat on another note. Peptide protocol is terrific

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                                @Randy Poor Glaciar, those guys are great over there.

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                                @Stevepep said:

                                @Randy Poor Glaciar, those guys are great over there.

                                Yeah I loved Glacier but if they are going to continue using Kovera, have to rethink.

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                                  I sent 2 things in for Testing. Depending on something else, looks like I may be sending one of them into somewhere else to double check. Better safe than pin & prey..

                                  Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                    Not a huge deal, it was Jeff’s (Randy) Idea not mine. Jeff even offered to pay for it, he wanted to test them out for everyone on the forum, without them knowing it was him. So the credit goes to him, not me...

                                    Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                      @gym.rat an octopus grew inside the vial lol. Sorry that’s not the way bacteria etc grows it’s more tree like if it’s really bad. If I am looking at what you are talking about. There are other clues that it’s either photoshopped or AI you can see reflections. It’s not real I don’t think. I never say never but based on the shadows etc those vials were place in the photo with the octopus inside

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                                        The other problem is kovera is used by a bunch including mile high. I have a feeling kovera is the tip of the US labs iceberg. Randy said trustpoint and vanguard are legit get out the checkbook for those guys

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                                          One thing I noticed from a couple of different vendor sites that i visited was Freedom tests the were a lower percentage, then new Kovera lab results that were much higher results.

                                          It seemed to me that some vendors weren't getting their desired results from Freedom so switched to Kovera with much success.

                                          At one point I was checking many sites for a go to. So many sites/vendors that I wanted nothing to do with.

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