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    #51

    I tried this lab. Had an issue, tried to get in touch with someone there, no reply from multiple emails. And I used the request correction button for the COA - Nothing… Stay Away

    Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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      He never delivered the tests we paid for either. Over a month later. No responses to emails.

      Guys... I learned how to do a chargeback at 41.

      "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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        Is there even anyone actually at this place? Probably not… I am starting to think samples arrive there, get thrown in the garbage and they just make up numbers. If we only had a comparison of this lab to others, we might know...

        Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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        • RandyR Randy

          He never delivered the tests we paid for either. Over a month later. No responses to emails.

          Guys... I learned how to do a chargeback at 41.

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          @Randy color me surprised 🙄

          Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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          • RandyR Randy

            He never delivered the tests we paid for either. Over a month later. No responses to emails.

            Guys... I learned how to do a chargeback at 41.

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            @Randy said:

            I learned how to do a chargeback at 41

            I hope it's not something sexual?

            attentiion is all you need

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            • RandyR Randy

              He never delivered the tests we paid for either. Over a month later. No responses to emails.

              Guys... I learned how to do a chargeback at 41.

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              @Randy Poor Glaciar, those guys are great over there.

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              • RandyR Randy

                He never delivered the tests we paid for either. Over a month later. No responses to emails.

                Guys... I learned how to do a chargeback at 41.

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                • RandyR Randy

                  He never delivered the tests we paid for either. Over a month later. No responses to emails.

                  Guys... I learned how to do a chargeback at 41.

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                  @Randy That's incredibly unprofessional. I'm going to steer clear of vendors using Kovera. This is a gigantic trust issue.

                  I have a handful of vials with Kovera COAs in my current stock but going to stay away going forward.

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                    @gym.rat on another note. Peptide protocol is terrific

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                      @Randy Poor Glaciar, those guys are great over there.

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                      @Stevepep said:

                      @Randy Poor Glaciar, those guys are great over there.

                      Yeah I loved Glacier but if they are going to continue using Kovera, have to rethink.

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                        I sent 2 things in for Testing. Depending on something else, looks like I may be sending one of them into somewhere else to double check. Better safe than pin & prey..

                        Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                          Not a huge deal, it was Jeff’s (Randy) Idea not mine. Jeff even offered to pay for it, he wanted to test them out for everyone on the forum, without them knowing it was him. So the credit goes to him, not me...

                          Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                            @gym.rat an octopus grew inside the vial lol. Sorry that’s not the way bacteria etc grows it’s more tree like if it’s really bad. If I am looking at what you are talking about. There are other clues that it’s either photoshopped or AI you can see reflections. It’s not real I don’t think. I never say never but based on the shadows etc those vials were place in the photo with the octopus inside

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                              The other problem is kovera is used by a bunch including mile high. I have a feeling kovera is the tip of the US labs iceberg. Randy said trustpoint and vanguard are legit get out the checkbook for those guys

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                                One thing I noticed from a couple of different vendor sites that i visited was Freedom tests the were a lower percentage, then new Kovera lab results that were much higher results.

                                It seemed to me that some vendors weren't getting their desired results from Freedom so switched to Kovera with much success.

                                At one point I was checking many sites for a go to. So many sites/vendors that I wanted nothing to do with.

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                                  I think I checked the other day. I believe Vanguard was $250 for Mass & Purity. But I don’t think they have an option for an additional vial from the same batch for a discount.

                                  Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                    One thing I noticed from a couple of different vendor sites that i visited was Freedom tests the were a lower percentage, then new Kovera lab results that were much higher results.

                                    It seemed to me that some vendors weren't getting their desired results from Freedom so switched to Kovera with much success.

                                    At one point I was checking many sites for a go to. So many sites/vendors that I wanted nothing to do with.

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                                    @Robot-Babylon said:

                                    It seemed to me that some vendors weren't getting their desired results from Freedom so switched to Kovera with much success

                                    That's concerning. I have a bunch of vials with Kovera and ILS COAs. 😞

                                    Rest of my stock is Freedom and Vanguard. After more vendors offered 7/7 testing, I started preferring them but now I've to be judicious about Kovera and ILS COAs.

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                                      @Robot-Babylon said:

                                      It seemed to me that some vendors weren't getting their desired results from Freedom so switched to Kovera with much success

                                      That's concerning. I have a bunch of vials with Kovera and ILS COAs. 😞

                                      Rest of my stock is Freedom and Vanguard. After more vendors offered 7/7 testing, I started preferring them but now I've to be judicious about Kovera and ILS COAs.

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                                      @pep_researcher they switched from freedom because freedom was testing well out of range on some compounds and not double checking.

                                      I have a test from them thats suss currently.

                                      I dont like how close freedom is with peptira. Ive heard the term "partner"thrown around.

                                      "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                        @pep_researcher they switched from freedom because freedom was testing well out of range on some compounds and not double checking.

                                        I have a test from them thats suss currently.

                                        I dont like how close freedom is with peptira. Ive heard the term "partner"thrown around.

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                                        @Randy said:

                                        dont like how close freedom is with peptira

                                        No wonder, despite most other vendors switching to 7/7 testing and choosing other labs because Freedom can't do USP 71 sterility, Peptira continues to use Freedom and high prices for the same 4/7 testing.

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                                          @gym.rat said:

                                          personally have had zero issues with their products and same goes for Glacier

                                          I know in RUO world this rhetoric gets thrown around a lot, but with all due respect one RS not having an issue is not a scientific proof that the product is well tested and the lab is doing its job correctly. It could be that the product was good to begin with or the RS didn't show reaction to a bad product.

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