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  • kenhnsyK kenhnsy

    My head is spinning trying to process this info. I am interested in putting the beaver on HGH after watching a few gurus who are touting it. So, can a few of you put down a concise protocol with dosage, peptide stacking, labs to use, gurus with information that you find competent?
    I get reluctant when I look at the chemical feedback loops and then it looks tempting to buy one of the guru's time. But with the proliferation of NLP, I know many of them have Tony Robbins plans to siphon as much money off of me as is emotionally possible. So, it would be great to get a plan from some of you who we trust and have used HGH successfully.

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    @kenhnsy said:

    My head is spinning trying to process this info. I am interested in putting the beaver on HGH after watching a few gurus who are touting it. So, can a few of you put down a concise protocol with dosage, peptide stacking, labs to use, gurus with information that you find competent?
    I get reluctant when I look at the chemical feedback loops and then it looks tempting to buy one of the guru's time. But with the proliferation of NLP, I know many of them have Tony Robbins plans to siphon as much money off of me as is emotionally possible. So, it would be great to get a plan from some of you who we trust and have used HGH successfully.

    Start with 1iu. Get labs after 90 days. You want igf-1 ideally between 180 - 220 and glucose <100. Get the basic panel ran as well (CMP/CBC/LIPIDS) just to make sure everything is running smooth. Plenty of lab services online that are cheap.

    Look up edema symptoms. Be on the lookout for them, you should be fine at that low of a dosage but still pay attention.

    If you get a yearly physical, it would be worth it to schedule during this time, often they run these panels and you can get them for free plus they'll test your BP and benchmark weight.

    I do labs twice a year, once for free with my yearly physical and once out of pocket with online services.

    Lots of info online. If you're wealthy and have extra resources its worth it to hire coaches/clinics but you can also learn this stuff as well with online resources.

    If you run into any serious issues don't hesitate to see your physician and just be up front and honest with what you're doing. They see all sorts of people doing all sorts of things.

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      @kenhnsy said:

      My head is spinning trying to process this info. I am interested in putting the beaver on HGH after watching a few gurus who are touting it. So, can a few of you put down a concise protocol with dosage, peptide stacking, labs to use, gurus with information that you find competent?
      I get reluctant when I look at the chemical feedback loops and then it looks tempting to buy one of the guru's time. But with the proliferation of NLP, I know many of them have Tony Robbins plans to siphon as much money off of me as is emotionally possible. So, it would be great to get a plan from some of you who we trust and have used HGH successfully.

      Start with 1iu. Get labs after 90 days. You want igf-1 ideally between 180 - 220 and glucose <100. Get the basic panel ran as well (CMP/CBC/LIPIDS) just to make sure everything is running smooth. Plenty of lab services online that are cheap.

      Look up edema symptoms. Be on the lookout for them, you should be fine at that low of a dosage but still pay attention.

      If you get a yearly physical, it would be worth it to schedule during this time, often they run these panels and you can get them for free plus they'll test your BP and benchmark weight.

      I do labs twice a year, once for free with my yearly physical and once out of pocket with online services.

      Lots of info online. If you're wealthy and have extra resources its worth it to hire coaches/clinics but you can also learn this stuff as well with online resources.

      If you run into any serious issues don't hesitate to see your physician and just be up front and honest with what you're doing. They see all sorts of people doing all sorts of things.

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      @Neil-McCauley idk my dr wont test beyond annual physical lab work without symptoms. If I did press, like I have before for hormone panel, I end up paying dearly for the lab work copay and such.

      Self directed labs are the way to go. They’re done thru quest and labcore anyway. But IGF is always more than hormones and basics

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        @Neil-McCauley idk my dr wont test beyond annual physical lab work without symptoms. If I did press, like I have before for hormone panel, I end up paying dearly for the lab work copay and such.

        Self directed labs are the way to go. They’re done thru quest and labcore anyway. But IGF is always more than hormones and basics

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        @ursus said:

        @Neil-McCauley idk my dr wont test beyond annual physical lab work without symptoms. If I did press, like I have before for hormone panel, I end up paying dearly for the lab work copay and such.

        Self directed labs are the way to go. They’re done thru quest and labcore anyway. But IGF is always more than hormones and basics

        My insurance company is similar. I get everything that's covered in my free yearly, which is pretty much everything outside of hormones. My 2nd lab trip is all the basics plus hormones - using online services I still only pay around 150 bucks for everything. Prior years I used LEF. This year I may try Marek or someone else.

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          I haven’t hit my deductible limit yet so I had to pay $300 of the $1,547 raw billing for my doctor’s labs(CBC + lipids + PSA), where two full sets with Function costs me $350. But I got a full urinalysis + for no additional fee with my last visit.

          Trying to figure out doctor lab math will just hurt your brain, but I guess if you can get them to do it and you don’t have to pay, that’s fine.

          Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

          If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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            I haven’t hit my deductible limit yet so I had to pay $300 of the $1,547 raw billing for my doctor’s labs(CBC + lipids + PSA), where two full sets with Function costs me $350. But I got a full urinalysis + for no additional fee with my last visit.

            Trying to figure out doctor lab math will just hurt your brain, but I guess if you can get them to do it and you don’t have to pay, that’s fine.

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            @ResearchCat said:

            CBC + lipids + PSA

            $41.20 at https://ownyourlabs.com/, even without any discount code.

            attentiion is all you need

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              I got IGF tested at Quest via Justlabs.com $52 out the door

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                I got IGF tested at Quest via Justlabs.com $52 out the door

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                @WowwyZowwy said:

                I got IGF tested at Quest via Justlabs.com $52 out the door

                $40 at Marek

                https://marekdiagnostics.com/collections/individual-biomarkers

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                  @ResearchCat said:

                  CBC + lipids + PSA

                  $41.20 at https://ownyourlabs.com/, even without any discount code.

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                  @vpeptides Thanks for the recommendation - I just ordered from here for single items not on my monthly rythm testing.

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                    Tracy at QSC has the best HGH I have tried so far. great selection of sizes and lots of testing. Most vials have healthy overfill. The only mainstream vendor that I found that carries it is Penguin.

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                    @CapmanCrunch If cost were not a factor, how would you rate QSC vs K4L?

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                      I currently run QSC HGH, and after dialing in the 2iu a night. I absolutely love it. I was going in at around 3.5 and that was to much for me. I have alot of QSC in my cabinet and am awaiting a refund for ERPs horrible quality HGH. That even know how bad it was they were still selling it. Im sure they sold the batch I sent back. I have never had so much trouble dealing with a company as I have with ERP. They make it up as they go. I would completely stay away from them. Im awaiting quite a bit of lobster HGH and other products, he also mentioned today that they are changing the requirements for purchasing to make it easier on the normal customer.

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                        @CapmanCrunch If cost were not a factor, how would you rate QSC vs K4L?

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                        Anyone have any opinions on this?

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                          @WowwyZowwy said:

                          I got IGF tested at Quest via Justlabs.com $52 out the door

                          $40 at Marek

                          https://marekdiagnostics.com/collections/individual-biomarkers

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                          @Neil-McCauley Sweet deal. Thanks!!!

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                            I currently run QSC HGH, and after dialing in the 2iu a night. I absolutely love it. I was going in at around 3.5 and that was to much for me. I have alot of QSC in my cabinet and am awaiting a refund for ERPs horrible quality HGH. That even know how bad it was they were still selling it. Im sure they sold the batch I sent back. I have never had so much trouble dealing with a company as I have with ERP. They make it up as they go. I would completely stay away from them. Im awaiting quite a bit of lobster HGH and other products, he also mentioned today that they are changing the requirements for purchasing to make it easier on the normal customer.

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                            @thanks_enjoi I'm about to dive into this for the first time. What was it that made you realize that 3.5 was too much?

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                              @thanks_enjoi I'm about to dive into this for the first time. What was it that made you realize that 3.5 was too much?

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                              @WowwyZowwy said:

                              @thanks_enjoi I'm about to dive into this for the first time. What was it that made you realize that 3.5 was too much?

                              When my GH levels get too high the first thing I notice is side effects from water retention. My fingers and hands get tight and stiff, and my elbow joints get a little sore.

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                                Anyone have any opinions on this?

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                                @XBigbeerX
                                I have not tried or heard of K4L, who are they?

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                                  @XBigbeerX
                                  I have not tried or heard of K4L, who are they?

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                                  @CapmanCrunch said:

                                  @XBigbeerX
                                  I have not tried or heard of K4L, who are they?

                                  Kits4less, I went with them before getting into this site. They are a sponsor to some of the aas boards. They carry a few different gee h labels. I haven't tried qsc's or lobsters but both seem preferable to k4l's in both price and purity. With k4l I've researched the dragon's so far, I wouldn't get the white tops though. Hoping when these run low to get in on some of qsc'. However I'm just starting to dip my toes into the big boy juice realm so take it all with a grain of salt

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                                    @CapmanCrunch said:

                                    @XBigbeerX
                                    I have not tried or heard of K4L, who are they?

                                    Kits4less, I went with them before getting into this site. They are a sponsor to some of the aas boards. They carry a few different gee h labels. I haven't tried qsc's or lobsters but both seem preferable to k4l's in both price and purity. With k4l I've researched the dragon's so far, I wouldn't get the white tops though. Hoping when these run low to get in on some of qsc'. However I'm just starting to dip my toes into the big boy juice realm so take it all with a grain of salt

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                                    @ManicXmedic the white box unbranded must be the kits in circulation with the discount aas outlets. 100-150 ius

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                                      @ManicXmedic the white box unbranded must be the kits in circulation with the discount aas outlets. 100-150 ius

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                                      @ursus that I can't attest to, but on the site it listed the 150 box at 98% purity and then on the coa listed on site in their quality control section it was 95%. And they haven't been going into solution completely like the dragons.

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                                        @thanks_enjoi I'm about to dive into this for the first time. What was it that made you realize that 3.5 was too much?

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