@Randy said:

@TrueNorth https://amzn.to/4saGhzg

These state that they for them M2. What keeps them from working with the B1/Pro or B21/Pro? Is it the sensor in the tape that keeps the machine from detecting it? The same question would apply to the holographics which are also only available for the M2.

I'll probably regret this, but let's play a little devil's advocate.

You are under the assumption that Jano is the gold standard and never makes mistakes. How do we know with 100% certainty that Jano isn't the one who is wrong and Freedom isn't the lab that is correct? Not taking into consideration past history or COA's. Just looking at the two in front of us.

@MikeMiranda said:

just got my 3.5 and 3 ultra I really like feel of the 3.5

I don't think the 3.5 gets enough love and is underated. Super easy to push.

@Shifted +1 on the vial top label. It makes it so easy to find stuff in the Hydrapeaks.

@ManicXmedic Never thought of that. Smart. Thanks for the tip.

@stevetenerovich said:

Thanks for the feedback. I reconstitute with 3ml of bac for those smaller doses. I didn't have empty larger vials to transfer into and add additional bac so the smaller doses are what I'm stuck at. I prefer 10-20 units for my ideal volume when I can.

I was running into the same issue until I just went ahead and ordered a 25 pack of 10ml vials. Check out farris labs, medlab supply, or peptide test for those, or other size vials.

@stevetenerovich said:

@Nuncles in my testing I agree that a faster, harder push gave better result but out of 4 tests for each pen I think 1 pen landed dead on. 1 out of 8 tests being dead on was disappointing so I guess I'll just up the units to compensate

I wouldn't sweat it. Human error probably provides more inaccuracy in the dosing than the pens. Meaning, we never really know the EXACT amount of product in a particular vial. Look at COA's. Multiple tested vials often contain different amounts from the same testing lab, not to mention different amounts from 1 lab to the other. In the big scheme of things, it shouldn't be a big deal. If your research subject is that sensitive to that small amount of difference, then perhaps it's not the right peptide for your subject. And in my testing, the accuracy issues have been essentially the same for most pens, not just the V4. It's an inexpensive mechanical mass produced device. They won't all be perfect. My 2 cents.

BTW, I've always accounted for the needle quantity and primed my syringe before testing.

I always set it to one unit higher. Also, the speed of the injection matters. It seems to be more accurate with a faster push. Momentum I suppose.

@stevepep Thanks, I will give NACL a go with my next vial. How much do you use to recon?

@derekg1 said:

@Nuncles said:

Question for the pen clan. What do you do if you have a dosage that's over 60 units (or 80 for V1 users)? Let's say 100 units. Jab twice or just stick to the archaic, uncool syringe.

A syringe. You'll be going through vials so quick it doesn't make sense to me to even use a pen.

Yeah, I had realized that. Pens are still the new "hotness" for me so I'm okay with the number of cartridges I would go through.

@stevepep I know a few of you have used NACL with NAD+ successfully, but this is the only place I've seen recommend it. I'm still not 100% sold. I've seen it recommended for SS-31 and MOTS both here and other places. Besides, I'm down to my last two I need to finish SS-31 and MOTS-c.

@tbone Not a wrong answer. I asked what people do. It's what you do and it works for you. Appreciate the feedback.

@randy Nice video. But once correction. In the supply tags it should "filtered" peptide instead of just peptide.

@SkepticJen said:

@Nuncles This is almost certainly the wrong answer but I reconstitute so that I never have a dose over 50 units.

Ideally yes, that's the way to go.

But for instance...NAD+ 1000mg. I reconstituted with 10mL in order to keep the sting down. The protocol is 100mg so 100 units. I also had an RX with the same ratio of 100mg/mL so it just made sense to use 10mL. I realize I could have just used 5 or 6 mL to keep the units down, but I guess I was just being a panzy.

Question for the pen clan. What do you do if you have a dosage that's over 60 units (or 80 for V1 users)? Let's say 100 units. Jab twice or just stick to the archaic, uncool syringe.

We call it Amtrak but some call it the Genetek train. IYKYK

@mydogdaryl423 He ships from south Texas. I have purchased a couple of times.

@Mydogdaryl423 said:

@stevepep that's a dead link. If its .net found that site but its sold out. Also appreciate any insight on the questions above. I have a unique situation and cant do the shady transactions and overseas shipping most of you can.

If it's the site I think it is, he moved from the ampules to the 30mL vial.

@ Commander Just a reminder to factor in that not all of us need a case at a time. They would expire before I can use a case and group buys are not an option with locales. Something to consider when quoting the 12 dollar price.

@Commander said:

@denti said:

I think Randy needs to put some novopens in the shop along side your adapter. I hope you can make some $ off this whether it’s here or on Etsy

So I never do things like this for money. But if Jeff wants this for his store, he is welcome to it. He is way better at this stuff than I am, he would end up making it better than I could. If he wants it and sells it, then it doesn't go on Makerworld, it will be his at that point not mine. I would love it if he sold Novo 4s!!

How would injection molding hold up for this type of part, if that would even work.