The Epitalon makes me sleep too hard and too long. I don't like it. I'm taking Pinealon early in the morning. Do I really need Epitalon? I don't have sleep problems in the first place.
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Looking for some deals on MOTS-C for early Fall use (after I finish current protocols) but have some questions that you fine, experienced folks might be able to answer.
Using link below:
https://peptideinitiative.com/peptides/mots-cIt states a possible effect on blood pressure. Does anyone know if this is a lowering of BP or rise in BP? I have high BP.
Do those who have a plethora of experience with this recommend the starting dose stated?
Does it sting? I like extra BAC for stingers.
Thank you for your kind attention while busy hunting bargains.
@Stevepep I'm retired now, so this is my hobby. I collect so much data....from FDA trials, studies, to community anecdotal evidence. I cross analyze self researched protocols with those presented by reputable sources like Dr. Jones or Dr. Tatum, and doctors who are pro peptide and will speak to me, but stay on the low as they don't want any light shined on them and I get why. In any case https://peptideprotocols.app/ is a manifestation of all of that info / data put into one location. -
I am new to this. I know @randy recommended one for around $200 to print cases and the desicant containers, maybe even the inserts. I can't find the video. Any help would be great. Thanks.
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I recently found out that I have a benign C4 peripheral nerve sheath tumor in my right neck called a Schwannoma. It's an extremely slow growing type of tumor that I've had for over 20 years. Due to its size and location, the doctors have decided to just monitor it rather than a risky surgery to remove it. I mentioned to my Neurologist about the peptides I'm wanting to take to help with my body recomposition, and he said specifically to stay away from these:
Sermorelin, Hexarelin, CJC-1295, Ipamorelin, Tesamorelin, MK-677, BPC-157, TB-500 (TB4), NAD+ and GHK-Cu.Now I have to figure out what to do with all the supply I have in my chest freezer. Needless to say, I'm pretty bummed out about this.
read more →@gym.rat Im feeling 55yo younger. Guys think of these peptides like a way to dial you metabolic system, and even better mitochondria. You are very much powered by mitochondria threw out you body. We are not only a bag of water. We are a walking battery. These peptides may not be perfect but they offer beyond the state most of our bodies are in? It is so freaking fascinating. Can you imagine with the right blood work. There is Huma Pod offered to the public with close to Dexa Scan precision. Damn that is where extropy gets expensive. lol -
I know Hospira is considered the gold standard for bacteriostatic water, but I'm not a fan of their plastic vials, and in light of all the recent faux-scarcity and price-gouging by Hospira resellers, I felt now might be a good time to compare other options. My goal was to find a brand that 1. packages their reconstitution solution in borosilicate glass instead of plastic, 2. has published testing results available, showing consistently high quality and purity, and 3. manufactures their products in Europe or the USA, rather than in China. Bonus points if they have a seemingly-good reputation online, and lots of positive reviews from fellow researchers, although obviously the latter can be faked or manipulated. The water I eventually selected is made by Parrox, and runs about $5.25 a vial when purchased in quantity with a discount code and free shipping. If you're in Chicago and would like to go in with me on a large-ish order, let me know! If you're not in Chicago, but have been on a similar hunt for Hospira alternatives, maybe check them out for yourself. Shelf life on the vials appears to be 3 years from date of manufacture.
@theexquisitehour I would stay away from any water that tests so high on pH. I got some cell research lab grade sterile water for my own Ghetto BAC expt and even that tested right between 5-6 on pH strips. If the pH is coming out so high they are not using proper nonpyrogenic autoclaved sterile water as the base. Most likely they are using distilled or deionized water and adding benzyl alcohol to it. Did their COAs come with endotoxin and sterility results? Either way, better to stay away. If you want to save money, get cell culture lab grade sterile water (easily available), add 10 units of BA to every 10ml of water, and filter for more peace of mind. -
found some NAD+ on gray, 100Mg vials, it came in 10ML Vial. idk why lol adding 1.5 ML of back water gives my Rat a 20mg dose @ 30 units
any reason I should add more to this? Less sting? hate to push more in the syringe than needed.
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The peptides should meets three criteria.
- Relatively quick noticeable effects.
- Highly titratable.
- No blood work needed for a basic starter.
Mine where the following The gate way of all peps Reta. It is just amazing on its own. Total metabolic reset if you can dial it right. Semax and selank. Lets just say im off all my shrinks meds. MOTSC energy was so good that I leveled it up adding NAD and later with 5amino 1mq + Slu-pp-322. All the sudden mitochondria bio makes alot of sense. And they all cross each other. One example, I feel like semax got a boost since I started 5amino and even more with Slupp. Even Reta got a boost with just MOTSC alone. Even more w 5amino + Slupp. -
I hate to be an enabler for all the FOMO and hoarder peeps out there, but I thought it might be a good idea to have a centralized location for all of the July 4th sales. This wouldn't necessarily be an endorsement for any particular vendor or a review, but rather an FYI for what's out there.
Genpeptide - 25% off peptides. An additional 10% discount of purchases over $1000. Valid June 26th to July 6th.
-EDIT- FREEDOM25 is the discount code.Received via email marketing. Out of curiosity, I tested the code and it appears (as of this writing) that it will not apply to their "Build a Kit". Only one coupon code is allowed so it isn't stackable with the Peptide Critic 10% off code.
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this past month ive been stuck. currently testing reta at 6. ss31. and aod 250mcg twice daily. and for the life of me as soon as i see some progress it swings up sometimes as much as 5 pounds. drinking a gallon of water a day. fasting for aod. and eating smaller meals within a short window. no stall break. any ideas? im at the "alright now im not asking" phase of this stall. tips tricks and prayers would be welcomed haha.
@quicksilver80 My favorite relief program is a Dutch Bros, largest iced Maple Waffle latte with no added sugar, soft top with caramel and salt on top and 4 hits of expresso. I'll make that last for about 2 days. Those visceral fat cells cheer me on big time, just before they liquify and go into the potty. -
I’m in the Amazon review program called V I N E. (Had to put spaces because it’s against TOS to tell anyone publicly). I often see things when they are new and discounted to encourage sales. Anyway, I thought I’d make this topic to post my finds instead of putting them in the swag topic I usually do.
These insulated storage containers are $9.99. Usually they run $15-$20.
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What is the suggested protocol. Just got confused by other posts. @randy you love it please chime in. I am titrating starting at 1mg up to 5 for the last 5 days for 20 days total. Just started
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I held a few experiments based on some suggestions from a research-oriented medical doctor, Alex Grinberg.
First, he had an idea that anti-microbial LL-37 together with Thymosin Alpha 1 may be used to fight latent viruses like EBV. Coincidently, I had some flu-like sickness so I tried. Short-term intensive protocol for acute infections: 3-4 times a day 0.5mg LL-37 + 1.6mg TA-1. I did it for 2 days, and I didn't see it helping at all: the recovery went with the usual speed, while the hope was it stops the virus almost in few hours.
I continued once a day a combination of those 2 peptides for 2 weeks.
To test it I took a test before and after: EBV VIRAL CAPSID AG (VCA) AB (IGG) + EBV NUCLEAR AG (EBNA) AB (IGG). The first one went down slightly 459->352, the second remained over 600. I don't think it was a success, it remained high, and even higher than I measured it 2 years ago.Also, I wanted to improve my immune profile. My Lymphocytes are low since Covid times, 1000-1200 while I would prefer them around 2000. The idea was to use a combination of thymic bioregulators to improve it. I took a a detailed test measuring CD4, CD8, CD16, CD56, CD19 (so called T cells, NK cells and B cells). My profile looked balanced but the absolute number of T-cells is too low. There are ideas that Vilon, Thymulin and Thymogen may rebalance the immune system, while Crystagen may help with B-cells. Also TA-1 should affect (boost) the immunity.
I used Vilon for 20 days at 1-3 mg, Thymogen at 50mcg, Thymulin (with Zinc) at about 0.3mg, Crystagen at 1-2mg.
The results, the second test after 2 months of this research didn't produce any significant effect on my lymphocites. Disappointing. I still believe it can be helpful and probably retry later.Here I want to send a bucket of dung to Verified Peptides. Everything I tried from them was like a poison to my research subject. Everything caused weird and unexpected side-effects, while the same materials from other companies were fine. That's why I used 0.3mg of Thymulin instead of 5mg, same with Vilon. Other compounds from them were also bad as tested.
Another thing I noticed, separately, I used Retatrutide 2mg twice a week. in a month it squeezed all the fat from my liver, my cholesterol is all-times low, ALT is 14. Pretty good, but even maybe too much. So, Glucagon agonist may be used at a lower dosages if there is not a severe NAFLD.
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So, I bought some CarePoint Precision 3mL 22G 25mm Luer Lock Syringe 100ct - for drawing out the bac water and putting it in the vial. I'm not sure if that's the best size for that. The needle seems kind of big. What do you think?
@coyote_hippie Jeff and Randy have videos on filing pen vials and filtering. You can find links to some of his YouTube videos by going to the community tab and selecting tutorials. https://peptidecritic.com/tutorials They can also be found directly on his YouTube channel. I pull BW and recon with a 23g or 25g. Draw and fill the pen vial usually with a 27g. I use a 31g for venting because it’s what I have and I want to burn them up because they’re a batch that’s hard to draw with. You can use whatever but just remember if you use a smaller gauge you’ll need to push slower, or risk blowing the plunger out the bottom accidentally if your not paying attention, and the smaller vent needle can also get a Venturi effect and suck the peptide out as you’re injecting it. Buying your syringes and luer lock tips separately makes things more flexible, and also gets around some states that have restrictions. -
Apologies if this is the incorrect place for this post. I figure it has to do with pens, so this may work?
I've recently made the switch to peptide pens and have become a huge fan of the convenience and consistency (thanks Randy!). Since I'm also on TRT, I started wondering whether testosterone could be used with pens as well.
After finding a forum thread where several people were doing exactly that, I decided to run some tests of my own.
Goal: Determine whether Testosterone Cypionate can be delivered accurately and consistently through a peptide pen.
Setup:
Pen: ConviPen (auto-injector)
Testosterone: Testosterone Cypionate 200 mg/mL in cottonseed oil
Needles: EasyTouch 29g 1/2" pen needlesI chose the ConviPen because it uses a metal drive rod and I suspected an auto-injector would have an easier time pushing a more viscous oil. I am still considering testing a manual pen (V4) for comparison.
Testing Performed:
Test #1: I loaded a cart into the pen and measured output directly into an insulin syringe. To do this, I inserted the syringe into the cart and dispensed a dose from the pen, allowing me to measure the volume.Approximately 10 repetitions were performed.
Result:
Output was extremely consistent.
15 units delivered essentially what was expected each time.Test #2: I then attached a 29g pen needle and repeated the testing by dispensing through the needle into the open end of a syringe. This method was less precise than Test #1, as some of the oil adhered to the sides of the syringe and could not be measured perfectly.
Approximately 30+ repetitions were performed.
Result:
Output remained consistent.
Measured delivery was roughly 1 unit lower than expected.
Because of this, I began testing a setting of 16 units to achieve an effective 15-unit delivery.Test #3: I then did an actual subcu injection for my regular dose. When I pressed the trigger at 16 units, the dose indicator rapidly dropped to approximately 5 units remaining, then continued clicking all the way down to 0. I left the needle in place for approximately 10 seconds after the indicator reached 0.
This behavior was very different from my syringe testing and raises the question of whether tissue resistance affects delivery compared to bench testing.
Preliminary Conclusions:
• Testosterone Cypionate in cottonseed oil can be delivered through a peptide pen.
• A 29g pen needle appears to work (shout out to the forum users who stated this in another post!!)
• Pens are mechanically capable of pushing oil-based testosterone.
• I still need long-term validation through TRT labs to confirm that Total Testosterone and Free Testosterone remain consistent with pre-pen values.
• I am unsure whether an auto-injector or manual pen is ultimately the better platform for oil-based compounds.Questions: For those who have experimented with TRT in peptide pens:
• Have you found auto-injectors or manual pens to be more reliable?
• Has anyone validated dose accuracy through bloodwork or measured output testing?
• What are some other factors I should be considering?I'm still early in this experiment, but so far, things are looking promising!
P.S. For those wondering, I wasn't burning through my actual TRT supply for science. A friend had an old blended testosterone vial that was never going to be used, so it became the sacrificial test subject for this project.
