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Protocol Opinions Needed - Bio Regulators

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  • bfullerB bfuller

    Hello my fellow Rodentia Muridae Rattus Norvegicus

    I'm ready to regenerate my rats mid section! Any ideas for a protocol are welcome for my next stack:

    Prostomax, Testagen, Vesilute and Vesugen.

    I am considering:

    10 day @ 2mg each
    15 day @ 1.5mg each
    20 day run @1mg each

    I'm open to feedback or recomendations

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    judge
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    @bfuller Hi bfuller, not sure if you have done this, but compare the ingredients of those peptides to each other. Some are the same. So you might be duplicating your purchases
    prostamax: Lys-Glu-Asp-Pro (KEDP)
    testagen: Lys-Glu-Asp-Gly (KEDG)
    vesugen: Lys-Glu-Asp

    I buy prostamax because i get vesugen free with it 🙂 and my rat takes 3ml a day

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    • J judge

      @bfuller Hi bfuller, not sure if you have done this, but compare the ingredients of those peptides to each other. Some are the same. So you might be duplicating your purchases
      prostamax: Lys-Glu-Asp-Pro (KEDP)
      testagen: Lys-Glu-Asp-Gly (KEDG)
      vesugen: Lys-Glu-Asp

      I buy prostamax because i get vesugen free with it 🙂 and my rat takes 3ml a day

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      @judge Then it seems like you are taking Vesugen-Pro 😉

      But, seriously, it doesn't work this way. The half-life of these molecules is short, and you can't control its degradation in a way that Lys-Glu-Asp will appear in blood in a large enough concentration to have an effect.

      attentiion is all you need

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      • J judge

        @bfuller Hi bfuller, not sure if you have done this, but compare the ingredients of those peptides to each other. Some are the same. So you might be duplicating your purchases
        prostamax: Lys-Glu-Asp-Pro (KEDP)
        testagen: Lys-Glu-Asp-Gly (KEDG)
        vesugen: Lys-Glu-Asp

        I buy prostamax because i get vesugen free with it 🙂 and my rat takes 3ml a day

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        @judge to second what Vpeptides says it doesn't work that way, the chain formation is specific to the tissue cell of whatever the peptide is targeting and directly binds to the DNA for the epiginetic control of "turning on/off" specific genes.

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        • bfullerB bfuller

          After reading many protocols I am going to go with Jay Campbells recomended effective real world (his words not mine) protocols. I was able to find his protocols in his blog. And since this is his product line, if I use his recomendations and it doesn't work he can't blame the researcher for not following an effective protocol (if I decide to review it)

          Vesilute – 2.5mg EOD – 16 days = 10 mg/week
          Testagen – 2mg daily - 10 days
          Vesugen – 1mg daily - 20 days
          Prostamax – 500mcg daily - 40days

          Baslines for PSA and testosterone are complete, I start tomorrow!

          Stay Tuned.

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          @bfuller How did this stack turn out for you? I am looking at something similar. Thanks

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            Yeah, can we get an update please?

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              Stevepep
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              Following i haven’t gone this route yet but been studying up. More research

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              • S Shaqdiesel

                Yeah, can we get an update please?

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                @Shaqdiesel @rmchrist Sorry folks I haven't logged in for a bit, work has been busy no time to play.

                So overall the objective markers oddly enouigh went in the opposite direction than expected. I would have expected increase in test and decrease in PSA.

                ie)

                1. PSA was 0.9 in March and 2weeks post cycle 1.1 and then 6 week later 1.2
                2. Total Testosterone (Am fasted) was lower than my last labs too by 2.2 nmol and free testosterone was dowm 70 pmol/L

                Subjectivly my night time urination went down to once a night when I was running the cycle from mostly 2 times a night and ocasional 3 times, but then it went back to twice a night shortly after for a couple weeks and now back to once a night which is an improvment for sure I am ok with.

                I feel like this wasn't enough of a cycle now that i've looked into bioregulators though. The Khavinson regime given directlry to Dean Henry from Khavinson himself is below. I added a link on the Bioregulator Podcast, really good watch.

                30 days on 20 days of
                10 days on 20 days off
                10 days on then 6 months off before the next cycle.


                The Next Generation of Peptides is Here (Longevity, Healing, Gene Optimisation) | Dean Henry

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                • bfullerB bfuller

                  @Shaqdiesel @rmchrist Sorry folks I haven't logged in for a bit, work has been busy no time to play.

                  So overall the objective markers oddly enouigh went in the opposite direction than expected. I would have expected increase in test and decrease in PSA.

                  ie)

                  1. PSA was 0.9 in March and 2weeks post cycle 1.1 and then 6 week later 1.2
                  2. Total Testosterone (Am fasted) was lower than my last labs too by 2.2 nmol and free testosterone was dowm 70 pmol/L

                  Subjectivly my night time urination went down to once a night when I was running the cycle from mostly 2 times a night and ocasional 3 times, but then it went back to twice a night shortly after for a couple weeks and now back to once a night which is an improvment for sure I am ok with.

                  I feel like this wasn't enough of a cycle now that i've looked into bioregulators though. The Khavinson regime given directlry to Dean Henry from Khavinson himself is below. I added a link on the Bioregulator Podcast, really good watch.

                  30 days on 20 days of
                  10 days on 20 days off
                  10 days on then 6 months off before the next cycle.


                  The Next Generation of Peptides is Here (Longevity, Healing, Gene Optimisation) | Dean Henry

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                  @bfuller said:

                  30 days on 20 days of
                  10 days on 20 days off
                  10 days on then 6 months off before the next cycle

                  Is this the standard protocol for all Bioregs?
                  They're hard to find.

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                  • Stan DouglasS Stan Douglas

                    @bfuller said:

                    30 days on 20 days of
                    10 days on 20 days off
                    10 days on then 6 months off before the next cycle

                    Is this the standard protocol for all Bioregs?
                    They're hard to find.

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                    @Stan-Douglas I would say most likely they are all supposed to be run like this in a pulsing fashion over three months to turn the gene expression back on and allow your body to do its own regeneration. Thats what I took away from Dean Henry’s comments.

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                    • Stan DouglasS Stan Douglas

                      @bfuller said:

                      30 days on 20 days of
                      10 days on 20 days off
                      10 days on then 6 months off before the next cycle

                      Is this the standard protocol for all Bioregs?
                      They're hard to find.

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                      #34

                      @Stan-Douglas - granted he is talking about the cytomax versions of the oral bioregulators though. For injectible Pinealon and Epitalon Dean mentions he does those for 20 days every 6 months, which sounded like that was more of a maintenance cycle vs initially treating acute aging symptoms.

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