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  • N Nuncles

    @russbechthold In the glutes and thighs, if you are using the 4mm-8mm needles, it's sub-q (right below the skin into the "fatty" part. To reach IM (intramuscular), or into the muscle, you would probably need a 1.25 to 1.5 inch needle depending on your physique.

    I would recommend the V4 for the best bang for your buck, but it looks like Randy is sold out of them. In that case, go for the V2 or V3.5 (edit: 3.5 are sold out now) to get your feet wet. If you don't mind spending the money, go for the Xulin.

    Does anyone know how often the website restocks their pens?

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    RussBechthold
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    @Nuncles
    thanks for the advice.
    I decided on the V2 through Peptipen. I used the HACHSMlTH coupon code and got buy 2 get one free . great deal

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      I know I have some pens in here....I just order one of the xulin and one convi pens to check them out, want to see if its better than the v2 or v4. I expect to be spoiled.
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        I have a V2 pen I bought from Randy.
        I saw a few comments about a few more drops coming out of the needle after removing the injection pen. I saw some comments saying leave the pen in a few seconds after injecting. That would be fine if the pain after pressing the injection button wouldn’t become significantly more painful after it bottoms out. I’m using the glucicare 32 gauge 4mm needles.
        I don’t know if I’m doing something wrong or if this is normal.

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          I generally do not have more, or any, pain from injecting. Sometimes the needle pinches at initial insertion. Are you injecting a large volume, or GHK?

          Anyway, yes, ideally you should hold the pen in place for 5-10 seconds to ensure the plunger has completed travel and dispensed the full dose. I sometimes still get a small drop after removal, but the only time I get more is if i remove the pen immediately after depressing the plunger or if it is sticking(which sadly, happens mostly with autopens for me.)

          One of the reasons I am happy with my V1’s and V2’s right now is that when they are done, they are done. But I do wait a few seconds.

          Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

          If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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            I have a V2 pen I bought from Randy.
            I saw a few comments about a few more drops coming out of the needle after removing the injection pen. I saw some comments saying leave the pen in a few seconds after injecting. That would be fine if the pain after pressing the injection button wouldn’t become significantly more painful after it bottoms out. I’m using the glucicare 32 gauge 4mm needles.
            I don’t know if I’m doing something wrong or if this is normal.

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            @dcasa10452 When using any pen for injection it's always good practice to leave it in five to sevens seconds to make sure it has all been dispensed. Just out of curiosity, what are you researching that would cause that much pain? You also might try a longer needle, maybe a 5mm or 6mm. Going a little deeper seems to help. IMG_0708.jpeg

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              @dcasa10452 When using any pen for injection it's always good practice to leave it in five to sevens seconds to make sure it has all been dispensed. Just out of curiosity, what are you researching that would cause that much pain? You also might try a longer needle, maybe a 5mm or 6mm. Going a little deeper seems to help. IMG_0708.jpeg

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              @mrjoshua44 researching Pinealon.
              I’ve taken Mots-C and Nad+ and have experienced that little burning sensation but this is more of a being stabbed pain. I noticed it the very first time using the pen and thought maybe I pushed the button too fast and have gone very slow afterwards and every time it’s that same pain. I usually jab myself in the abdomen area and even switched up a couple times and went into the top fatty part of my thigh. Same pain. And I font feel it until the last 2-3 units.

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                It’s pretty confusing being when I normally inject with a normal insulin syringe at a larger gauge and a longer length injections are virtually painless.

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                  I've use 4 and 8 mm needles. Left them in for well over 10 seconds. I still get the little drips. I guess its just the price to pay for the convenience of the pen.

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                    Any info on where researchers are buying pins for pens, my coyote lives in CA and often sites are wanting a prescription to order. Made the move over the holiday for pens 1 gansulin and 3 xulin's and my coyote is eager to try them out

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                    • sgirmantS sgirmant

                      Any info on where researchers are buying pins for pens, my coyote lives in CA and often sites are wanting a prescription to order. Made the move over the holiday for pens 1 gansulin and 3 xulin's and my coyote is eager to try them out

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                      @Coyote_Hippie look in the shop here.

                      Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                        If anyone has an odd love affair, like myself, with the plastic V2 Randy use to carry in his shop… I found some on Amazon
                        amazon.com/dp/B0H6D5CCW5

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                        Follows research backed science, not “trust me” bro’s.

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                          @dcasa10452 When using any pen for injection it's always good practice to leave it in five to sevens seconds to make sure it has all been dispensed. Just out of curiosity, what are you researching that would cause that much pain? You also might try a longer needle, maybe a 5mm or 6mm. Going a little deeper seems to help. IMG_0708.jpeg

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                          @mrjoshua44 said:

                          @dcasa10452 When using any pen for injection it's always good practice to leave it in five to sevens seconds to make sure it has all been dispensed. Just out of curiosity, what are you researching that would cause that much pain? You also might try a longer needle, maybe a 5mm or 6mm. Going a little deeper seems to help. IMG_0708.jpeg

                          I use a 31G 8mm

                          https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GF1M7XRF/

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                            I still legit don't even know the differences between all these pens. V1, V2, V3, V3.5, V4....whaaaaa? I've bought 6 V4's from Randy but don't even know why I decided that...likely the cool colors...

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                              There are specific design differences with them, and experientially, they are not the same. I find that I like the V1’s and V2’s Randy sells best, though a smooth Gansulin is top notch. V3’s are okay, and I haven’t tried the V4’s, which IIRC are noticably thinner than the others. I don’t really care about spring loaded needle hiders or any of that so it’s wasted on me. I just want a smooth running pen with a consistent mechanism.

                              My next run will be to test my Xiulins with bigger needles to see if that resolves their sticking problem.

                              Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

                              If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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                                There are specific design differences with them, and experientially, they are not the same. I find that I like the V1’s and V2’s Randy sells best, though a smooth Gansulin is top notch. V3’s are okay, and I haven’t tried the V4’s, which IIRC are noticably thinner than the others. I don’t really care about spring loaded needle hiders or any of that so it’s wasted on me. I just want a smooth running pen with a consistent mechanism.

                                My next run will be to test my Xiulins with bigger needles to see if that resolves their sticking problem.

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                                @ResearchCat the V4 and V3 Ultra are the smoothest. I have all of them. I like the V4 and V3 ultra better than the zulin. The zulin takes a lot of thumb pressure and isn’t as smooth. I love my gansolin lately gonna order another on the sale

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                                  Yeah, my gripe with the zulin is that it takes a huge amount of pressure to get it to work. I have 3 and they are all like that. Love my gansulins, but if you use cheap carts and they get stuck, it is annoying.

                                  Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

                                  If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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                                    Any info on where researchers are buying pins for pens, my coyote lives in CA and often sites are wanting a prescription to order. Made the move over the holiday for pens 1 gansulin and 3 xulin's and my coyote is eager to try them out

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                                    @sgirmant I've been getting mine from Amazon.

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                                      Thanks for the feedback, @researchcat and @stevepep!

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                                      • mrjoshua44M mrjoshua44

                                        @Splinter I've never had a problem before. Then again, I'll leave mine in about 6-8 seconds after it stops just to make sure every drop has dispensed.

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                                        @mrjoshua44 - 100% - when the clicking stops, the piston is still under pressure and dispensing the dose.

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                                          @dcasa10452 When using any pen for injection it's always good practice to leave it in five to sevens seconds to make sure it has all been dispensed. Just out of curiosity, what are you researching that would cause that much pain? You also might try a longer needle, maybe a 5mm or 6mm. Going a little deeper seems to help. IMG_0708.jpeg

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