Red Light Therapy - Who's tried it?
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Yep; I am having a full panel in a couple of weeks.
@ResearchCat Its cool when you compare them over a period of time
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This is my follow up. I am hoping I fixed some of the worrisome ones.
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I went with a panel because I’d rather use a panel for 3-5 minutes vs using a mask for 20-40 minutes.
If you must have a mask I recommend the omnilux. Also recommend getting the neck band. If you have a FSA/HSA account, lots of good red light devices at fsastore.com -
I went with a panel because I’d rather use a panel for 3-5 minutes vs using a mask for 20-40 minutes.
If you must have a mask I recommend the omnilux. Also recommend getting the neck band. If you have a FSA/HSA account, lots of good red light devices at fsastore.com -
@stevepep My full body panel is a Hooga 1500 and the face panel I started with is a Hooga 300. Hooga was the most affordable when I bought them 6 years ago. They don’t spend lots of money on advertising, or affiliates pushing their products. I have the basic two wave panels because that is where the science and research were at the time of my purchase.
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I have done it a few time, can't say I've felt anything particular for it. But not something I do frequently. I also get when I do my sauna and cold plunge. They have the red light set-up in the sauna, and that I feel, but can't say its just from the red light.
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A red light therapy joint opened up nearby me. I've seen these before but never really went down the rabbit hole.
Who's tried it? Thoughts?
@Randy try 7.5 -10 mg of Methlyne Blue about 20 mins before you use the redlight, its awesome and it does help with recovery. We have full body pannels with the raising and lowering stand over the top of a massage table. My mornings often consist of a youtube video on the latest interesting topic on my headphones and 18-20 minutes under the red light. If im injured, im all over it.
When my step daughter tore her knee, it was red light and PEMF. She went to see her ortho after a week and the doctor asked what she was doing to heal so fast. When she tolder,...oh my mom has this perfect mat thing and these big red lights,.....the ortho got excited and said he wished he had regular access to all of it.
I will say, if you use the red lihht at night, your neighbors will think you've opened a portal to the upside down.
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@Randy
First, I want to apologize in advance for the following wall of text! I have gone through so many therapies to help my daughter with her neurological issues and we currently still use red light therapy. She is the reason I started research peptides as well.A little background on her is probably helpful here. At birth, she had a stroke in the left basal ganglia area of her brain followed by a hypoglycemic episode that left her extremely disabled afterwards. For nearly 3 years following her birth, she was in what is called a waking coma also called unresponsive wakefulness syndrome, which is a condition where a person appears awake, with sleep-wake cycles, but lacks conscious awareness of themselves or their surroundings. She met none of the developmental milestones of course. Through lots of treatments, therapies, perseverance, and just plain stubbornness on my part to refuse to accept the doctors’ claims that she would never get better, slowly but surely, she began to improve. Things we take for granted with our other kids were miracles. She was able to sit unassisted for the first time at 3 years old, learned to chew food at 3 and a half, and at age 5 despite doctors telling me it would never happen, she was able to walk unassisted for the first time. It was a slow journey but she was getting better and gaining skills every day & I finally had hope for full recovery.
But then at age 12, it all fell apart and doctors didn't have a clue what was going on. Basically she suddenly switched like overnight. She regressed in all the skills she had gained and get progressively worse as the years passed with no diagnosis. Finally at age 22, after years of doctors and several scary hospitalizations, they figured it out - autoimmune encephalitis. I wont overload you with the horrible symptoms but it is described to be like your brain is on fire. Once they started her on the proper treatment including IVIG, her symptoms slowly began to improve. But having had this going on so long, she has sustained a lot of damage to her brain from the constant inflammation. Although she was worlds better in so many ways, she still was nonverbal, has sensory issues, nystagmus, tremors, seizures, anxiety, and motor & autonomic dysfunction. Trying to restart communication, physical and occupational therapies has been a real struggle. It felt like even though she wanted to participate, her brain would not or could not cooperate.
I heard about brain laser therapy, sometimes called red light therapy, as a promising treatment and was at first pretty skeptical. How can shining a red light on your head fix your brain?? I ordered a medical book by Dr Michael Hamblin, who is considered the world's the most documented authority on the subject.
Research studies show it is helpful for a ton of other issues too. After reading it and also thoroughly looking into tons of research studies on it, I decided this might be worth trying for her.
So what is it? The medical term is PBM or photobiomodulation, a non-invasive technique that uses low-level light therapy (specifically near-infrared light) to modulate mitochondrial activity, boosting energy (ATP) production and reducing inflammation. This process accelerates tissue repair and relieves pain. It can also potentially improve cognitive function or treat certain neurological conditions. My biggest problem was that I had no idea where to buy a reputable device. For the brain specifically, it is called tPBM or transcranial photobiomodulation. I learned early on in my studies that not all red light devices are not able to penetrate the skull to address brain inflammation adequately. For a device to be effective, it has to have the correct, energy fluence (total energy delivered per unit area, measured in Joules per square centimeter (J/cm²). It also requires specific irradiance which is the power density Irradiance is the power of the light source per unit area, measured in milliwatts per square centimeter (mW/cm²). It must also have the right pulse frequency which is important for safe treatment of the brain because it minimizes the heating effect while increasing the possible penetration depth. And lastly, the correct NIR wavelength is crucial to deliver real results.
There are tons of so-called 'red light' devices sold almost everywhere but many of those are not medical grade devices and from my research, none seemed to have the adequate power to penetrate the skull or even the correct near-infrared (NIR) frequency bands necessary for successful treatment. I looked into all types of different treatments from cold laser therapy but many of those devices were for physicians only and also cost over $8,000 for a single wavelength device. Alternatively, treatment by a doctor was extremely expensive not to mention there are no doctors within 4 hours of us that even offer anything like that. The red light devices from Amazon and other places seemed questionable to me. I had no way of knowing (short of learning how to test electrical currents and light frequencies) if any of these were legitimate devices or just a regular light with a red lens. I looked and researched for several months.
I ultimately went with a company called Vielight founded by another leading doctor in the field of tPBM, whose devices had been used in several of the research studies I had read and after going through their site and studies, I decided to purchase one of their products. I bought Neuro Duo 4 which has alpha and gamma wave settings. I have only used the alpha setting with her so far but went for the duo one just because of the extent of her issues. She has only been using the device for less than two months but the results so far have been amazing. We have started out slowly as recommended and are currently at 3 twenty minute sessions a week using an alpha wave setting. Her tremors & seizures have stopped and her headaches seem to be gone as well. Her focus has improved tremendously and she is now learning to use a keyboard and tablet to learn to type to talk. Her sensory issues and anxiety have also improved. The changes are night and day, truly. The company has done several studies themselves as well that are listed on their site. They also offer really good support and are quick to respond if you have questions. On my last call with them I mentioned, I was in several groups with lots of kids with the same issues and they even gave me a 10% discount code for me and to share on any of their stuff. They also offered a refund policy, you can try the product for 6 months and if their devices do not help, you can return it for an 80% refund. That impressed me considering how much money I had wasted n stuff that didn't help at all. Needless to say, I didn't return it. I really think it is the missing link for a lot people. The most important issue is making sure you get a device that has the right light frequency/ power & wavelengths for your condition. Here is a pic of her device :
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