Amazon just made BAC water illegal
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So now that Amazon has suspended all sales of BAC water, and possibly many other peptides products, what do we do?
Is there a way to make our own BAC water? Should we try to order a bunch of it from another website before it becomes extinct? Is there any stores we can physically visit iand buy it? Can we use something else to reconstitute? My rat just received a care package with lots of great peptides but no water!
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How long have you been using Amazon bac water??? Very sketchy. There’s a bunch of places that sell it if you hit the search button instead of new post
(but seriously most vendors sell their own which I don’t really recommend but you do you or they sell hospira for a premium) -
How long have you been using Amazon bac water??? Very sketchy. There’s a bunch of places that sell it if you hit the search button instead of new post
(but seriously most vendors sell their own which I don’t really recommend but you do you or they sell hospira for a premium)@izzdatboi why is it sketchy to get BAC water off Amazon, never even occurred to me there would be any difference in quality, guess that makes sense
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@danny2 a dozen bac waters were once tested from Amazon. Only two were good. Most didnt even have benzyl alcohol.
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Do Glow Aminos show the ph level of their bac. That seems to be the biggest problem. Hospira has the best ph it seems and solves many of the problems (except for the mots I just got from Chimera).
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Do Glow Aminos show the ph level of their bac. That seems to be the biggest problem. Hospira has the best ph it seems and solves many of the problems (except for the mots I just got from Chimera).
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@Hammertime65 I ordered from Glacier and they test for everything. PH is good as well
@Stevepep I've been a big Glacier proponent and have a few large orders from there, BUT....they are coming under scrutiny now because they are heavily tied to use of Kovera Labs, who are certainly looking like a pure scam as the days go on. So there might be some buddying up between vendors and testers for fabricated COAs. I'm not saying Glacier is lying, but there is reason to be skeptical thats for sure.
Upon my own research, Kovera Labs looks fake AF.
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@gym.rat I just had to pay $300 for a box of 25 30 ml bottles from medex, it's supposed to be hospira. And it's got almost a month long wait. Geesh. I can't believe I didn't put 2 and 2 together that BAC water is actually super important, wish I would have figured this out a month ago duhhhhhh
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@gym.rat I just had to pay $300 for a box of 25 30 ml bottles from medex, it's supposed to be hospira. And it's got almost a month long wait. Geesh. I can't believe I didn't put 2 and 2 together that BAC water is actually super important, wish I would have figured this out a month ago duhhhhhh
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So now that Amazon has suspended all sales of BAC water, and possibly many other peptides products, what do we do?
Is there a way to make our own BAC water? Should we try to order a bunch of it from another website before it becomes extinct? Is there any stores we can physically visit iand buy it? Can we use something else to reconstitute? My rat just received a care package with lots of great peptides but no water!
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@danny2 If I were you, might not be a bad idea to run KPV or similar as a just in case. It's supposed to be a direct antimicrobial agent.
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@Stevepep I've been a big Glacier proponent and have a few large orders from there, BUT....they are coming under scrutiny now because they are heavily tied to use of Kovera Labs, who are certainly looking like a pure scam as the days go on. So there might be some buddying up between vendors and testers for fabricated COAs. I'm not saying Glacier is lying, but there is reason to be skeptical thats for sure.
Upon my own research, Kovera Labs looks fake AF.
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@gym.rat luckily I'm looking at the KPV vials right now, deciding if I want to put my Amazon water in there or not... Flipping a coin 99 times to decide
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@Stevepep I think you are missing the point. Kovera Labs is fake, at least that is where all the evidence is pointing.
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@gym.rat ~~so many peptide companies use them.what is the evidence you speak of. It’s not just glacier this would be nuts. ION has used them and you are recommending them.
Yes, Ion has used them, but based on the products I buy they are not using them very often. Glacier on the other hand is all over Kovera. PeptideSupplyCo is a very active company on X and I've talked to the owner. Dude seems legit and their COAs are mostly Freedom Diags. As Randy says, vendors are good until they are not. So I buy from about 4-ish different places.
Main Concerns
Shared workspace / virtual address: Their listed location (Deerfield/Buffalo Grove, IL area, e.g., 570 Lake Cook Rd Suite 300 PMB) points to a coworking space or mailbox service rather than a proper equipped analytical lab. This is a common setup for low-overhead operations but raises doubts about having full HPLC, LC-MS, endotoxin, sterility, and heavy metals capabilities in-house.
"David Cohen" (Quality Director): The LinkedIn profile tied to them has been called out as potentially fake or AI-generated. No strong independent verification of credentials or a real lab team.
Ties to vendors: Reverse DNS and other checks by skeptics suggest the domain is linked to some peptide-selling sites. This fuels suspicions it's more of a "friendly" testing mill for vendors wanting quick, high-purity-looking COAs rather than a fully independent lab. Some note that vendors switching to them suddenly get suspiciously high results.
New and thin presence: Very young website, limited public info on staff/equipment/accreditation, and not much history. Scamadviser gives it a fair-but-not-great score mainly due to the newness.
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