What’s your Tesamorelin experience?
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I finished CJC +Ip and am going Tesa + Ip once the Ip pathway has time to clear.
From my research Tesa hits a different pathway than CJC so your rat wouldn't need a break if there is no Ip... IN THEORY of course, doyourownresearch. -
I love tesa, I have definitely been dropping visceral fat. You have to take it at least 2 hours after the last time you ate, right before bed. It helps me sleep. I take 1.5mg with .25mg Ipa.
I tried the CJC/Ipa, wasn’t for me…Tesa is a long cycle, I am at 4 months, but will probably do it year round. Plan on at least 6 months minimum.. -
In my limited experience, so far I prefer CJC/Ipa, still waiting on results from Tesa. I have been using a Hume scale for about a year now. My starting visceral fat index was 11. Post Tirz, it was down to 7. Through a 2 month cycle of CJC/Ipa and now 6 weeks into Tesa, it is still 7. Not sure what a reasonable expectation is. 7 is good. Should it be lower? Idk. I don’t find that they help me sleep, or at least I can’t attribute it to that. A number of lifestyle changes have led to better sleep.
I am not that familiar with considerations specific to female researchers except to say all researchers should benefit from a consistent weightlifting routine, hitting your protein numbers to prevent muscle loss, and ofc, hit that creatine hard.
Beyond that, how much you want to spend on supplements is up to you.
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I have only used Tes/Ipa. I did a 12 week cycle last fall/winter. My visceral fat dropped significantly. Unfortunately I don't remember the stats and I don't have the print out with me now. I used 1mg/300mcg respectively fasted before bed. I am now on week 6 of a 16 week cycle of the same. I do get some joint stiffness and pain but it isn't a show stopper. There is some water retention but it isn't too bad. I am hoping that goes away soon. I know it will for sure once my cycle is complete. My deep sleep numbers have improved according to my sleep tracker which helps with my workout recoveries. I love Tes/Ipa.
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In my limited experience, so far I prefer CJC/Ipa, still waiting on results from Tesa. I have been using a Hume scale for about a year now. My starting visceral fat index was 11. Post Tirz, it was down to 7. Through a 2 month cycle of CJC/Ipa and now 6 weeks into Tesa, it is still 7. Not sure what a reasonable expectation is. 7 is good. Should it be lower? Idk. I don’t find that they help me sleep, or at least I can’t attribute it to that. A number of lifestyle changes have led to better sleep.
I am not that familiar with considerations specific to female researchers except to say all researchers should benefit from a consistent weightlifting routine, hitting your protein numbers to prevent muscle loss, and ofc, hit that creatine hard.
Beyond that, how much you want to spend on supplements is up to you.
I am not that familiar with considerations specific to female researchers except to say all researchers should benefit from a consistent weightlifting routine, hitting your protein numbers to prevent muscle loss, and ofc, hit that creatine hard.
THIS!
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My rat is almost done with my 6 weeks of CJC/Ipa - which I liked. I’m thinking about doing the switch to Tesa. And would love to hear your experience or feedback with your research.
My Hume scale states my visceral fat is at “8” on their index scale, then says “low” next to it. I recently heard you want a “6” or less. Also feeling frustrated at that little pooch at the low belly that’s so hard to shift. I’m not overweight but my body fat percentage is 31.4%. Much higher than I want it to be.
Female rat, closing in on her 40’s soon, main goal is to lose fat and body recomp, but mainly get that fat percentage down! I have a great stack going, and seeing results in lowering body fat % slowly but surely, so curious if this would be a nice addition.
Did you gain water weight? If so when did it go away? How was your sleep? Joint pain or stiffness? Where did you get it from if you loved it? I’d love to hear it all!
Spill. The. Tea.
@yogipepp
Peptide response is very individualized, but if your visceral fat is already low, I personally wouldn't spend the extra money on tesa.
I've 'researched' cycles of:- tesa/ipa : (mediocre sleep compared to the other two, some inc water retention, no joint pain, same body comp results as the others)
- cdc-no dac/ipa : (initial flushing/inc HR after inj, mildly less sleep quality, basically same body comp as ser/ipa)
- sermorelin/ipa : (supposedly the 'weakest' but my personal favorite - best sleep, good body comp overall)
Not sure what other peptides you are researching but I have had amazing results with tirzepatide in terms of weight loss/body comp.
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You may take a blood test for IGF-1 to see how your current protocol affects you. Usually 120 to 200 ng/mL is the normal range with about 160 to be optimal. Your base line may be 120-130, you would need to measure it outside of your research cycles. If you get it a lot over 200 it may be too much and have side effects for your health, probably something in the range of around 200 is OK for the protocol temporarily.
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Interesting observation, my IGF-1 baseline was about 120 consistently, then I used 1 mg Tesa for 2 months, which brought IGF-1 to 200 in 1 months, then I tested it as 174. Then I stopped it for 3 weeks, I actually stopped all medicine and supplements. Now I retested IGF-1 and it's 180, even higher than 3 weeks ago. I wonder how long does it stay elevated after the end of the supplementation?
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My rat is almost done with my 6 weeks of CJC/Ipa - which I liked. I’m thinking about doing the switch to Tesa. And would love to hear your experience or feedback with your research.
My Hume scale states my visceral fat is at “8” on their index scale, then says “low” next to it. I recently heard you want a “6” or less. Also feeling frustrated at that little pooch at the low belly that’s so hard to shift. I’m not overweight but my body fat percentage is 31.4%. Much higher than I want it to be.
Female rat, closing in on her 40’s soon, main goal is to lose fat and body recomp, but mainly get that fat percentage down! I have a great stack going, and seeing results in lowering body fat % slowly but surely, so curious if this would be a nice addition.
Did you gain water weight? If so when did it go away? How was your sleep? Joint pain or stiffness? Where did you get it from if you loved it? I’d love to hear it all!
Spill. The. Tea.
@yogipepp ran prescription tesa ipa. 1 shot night before bed fasted. It works i noticed difference week 8 to 11 . I stopped at 12 weeks. Took past 7 weeks off, but about to do another.
I also have other recomp things going on but my stomache was much flatter under the muscle went from 35 36 waist to 33.
Tesa night
Blk coffee am
Mots c some days
5amino1 inj
Aod inj
Go fasted walking for 10k steps.Eat low carb, workout 5x week, trt
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Went through an entire kit basically by now. I havent lost much. But that could be gaining muscle as fast as loosing fat? Im in the gym 7 days a week. 5 miles cardio. Full body workout after. Diets spotty but nothing out of control high calorie. Just not strict rice and meat either. Ill tighten up the diet and see how it pans out.
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Went through an entire kit basically by now. I havent lost much. But that could be gaining muscle as fast as loosing fat? Im in the gym 7 days a week. 5 miles cardio. Full body workout after. Diets spotty but nothing out of control high calorie. Just not strict rice and meat either. Ill tighten up the diet and see how it pans out.
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@quicksilver80
Make sure you get in some rest days. That routine is pretty much the reason I'm running BPC and TB4 right now. Some of my joints didn't like doing cardio with 80 extra pounds on them.@seadracos im down 121. Should be a breath of fresh air on my bones. Hahah. Tbh i havent seen the edge of my stamina these days. I tried to push it to find it. 25 miles cycling daily at 103rpm and around 130hr with a full upper workout for a week and still couldnt find it. Ive said it before but ive never felt this good in my entire life.
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Keep it up! I felt a hell of a lot better back then as well but never that good.
A good deal of my issue was probably doing my daily 4+ mile walk on an uneven sidewalk up steep hills. I kept walking the same route the same way and now one of my hipso doesn't like when I exercises to much.
Tirz has been helping me lose all the weight I regained after I stopped exercising, and the wolverine blend has been doing some work to ease the hip.
I'm in my mid 30s, I'm too young to have joint pain XD. -
My rat is almost done with my 6 weeks of CJC/Ipa - which I liked. I’m thinking about doing the switch to Tesa. And would love to hear your experience or feedback with your research.
My Hume scale states my visceral fat is at “8” on their index scale, then says “low” next to it. I recently heard you want a “6” or less. Also feeling frustrated at that little pooch at the low belly that’s so hard to shift. I’m not overweight but my body fat percentage is 31.4%. Much higher than I want it to be.
Female rat, closing in on her 40’s soon, main goal is to lose fat and body recomp, but mainly get that fat percentage down! I have a great stack going, and seeing results in lowering body fat % slowly but surely, so curious if this would be a nice addition.
Did you gain water weight? If so when did it go away? How was your sleep? Joint pain or stiffness? Where did you get it from if you loved it? I’d love to hear it all!
Spill. The. Tea.
@yogipepp Just ending my fifth injection as of last night, and yesterday was the first time that I had just some intense injection site pain. I've been letting it sit out to reach room temperature, but using an 8 mm pen needle in the upper abdomen triggered intense internal pain within minutes that radiated outward and lasted about 30 minutes, though there were no welts or skin reactions.
I have not noticed any visceral fat changes yet (Hume scale) since it takes a while to work. Sleep has been pretty good, with my watch showing an increase in REM sleep.
I am debating whether to continue, but if I do, I am switching back to my thighs and avoiding the abdomen entirely because that was the worst injection pain I have ever experienced.
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I have been on 1.5mg of tesa for about 3 weeks and haven't noticed anything yet. But, also no joint pain or other side effects.
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I have been on 1.5mg of tesa for about 3 weeks and haven't noticed anything yet. But, also no joint pain or other side effects.
@warriorhealthandwellness test you IGF-1 levels, maybe it's a fake Tesa
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@yogipepp Just ending my fifth injection as of last night, and yesterday was the first time that I had just some intense injection site pain. I've been letting it sit out to reach room temperature, but using an 8 mm pen needle in the upper abdomen triggered intense internal pain within minutes that radiated outward and lasted about 30 minutes, though there were no welts or skin reactions.
I have not noticed any visceral fat changes yet (Hume scale) since it takes a while to work. Sleep has been pretty good, with my watch showing an increase in REM sleep.
I am debating whether to continue, but if I do, I am switching back to my thighs and avoiding the abdomen entirely because that was the worst injection pain I have ever experienced.
@uxu once you go upper buttcheek. Life becomes easier.
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I have been on 1.5mg of tesa for about 3 weeks and haven't noticed anything yet. But, also no joint pain or other side effects.
@warriorhealthandwellness said:
I have been on 1.5mg of tesa for about 3 weeks and haven't noticed anything yet. But, also no joint pain or other side effects.
I didn't start noticing things for at least month I was pinning 7days a week 1mg
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