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    We followed Nick Trigili’s recommendations on the entire “Russian Stack”. We have just finished the Pinealon portion and will move into the Dihexa cycle (not Russian) next. Seems to be working for us.

    For reference, here’s a link to the YT video: https://youtu.be/MyTP0qz8R4s?is=G0ySVCun3SFzBtxK

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    • S Shaqdiesel

      @eleanor Same time but different pins. I do not mix them.

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      @Shaqdiesel Thanks diesel!

      Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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      • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

        @Stevepep search function is very useful here. 😉

        https://community.peptidecritic.com/post/5042

        FWIW some other researchers recommend pinning Pinealon in the morning. Epithalon in the night, Pinealon, Selank, Semax in the morning.

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        @pep_researcher said:

        @Stevepep search function is very useful here. 😉

        https://community.peptidecritic.com/post/5042

        FWIW some other researchers recommend pinning Pinealon in the morning. Epithalon in the night, Pinealon, Selank, Semax in the morning.

        Yeah, that's in peptidedosages too. I'm definitely not going 5mg of Epi but will start with 1 in PM and 1 of Pinealon in AM. I can't imagine a pep that's meant to fix sleep taken in the morning and there's a limit to morning sun I can get; I have to go to work.

        Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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          @gym.rat said:

          the big C word

          It is hypothesized as a logical conclusion of Epitalon allegedly increasing telomeres and an observation that some C cells also use telomere elongation as a way to propagate. It was not observed in the studies, afaik. The opposite was observed though.

          attentiion is all you need

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            @gym.rat there are in-vitro studies, but in-vivo is yet speculative, especially in humans.

            attentiion is all you need

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              @gym.rat first time I have seen this site I will check it out. I am taking 1mg of Pinealon for a couple of days it hasn’t helped sleep at all so I am going to up it and see.

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                @gym.rat on my Apple Watch

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                  @pep_researcher said:

                  @Stevepep search function is very useful here. 😉

                  https://community.peptidecritic.com/post/5042

                  FWIW some other researchers recommend pinning Pinealon in the morning. Epithalon in the night, Pinealon, Selank, Semax in the morning.

                  Yeah, that's in peptidedosages too. I'm definitely not going 5mg of Epi but will start with 1 in PM and 1 of Pinealon in AM. I can't imagine a pep that's meant to fix sleep taken in the morning and there's a limit to morning sun I can get; I have to go to work.

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                  @Eleanor said:

                  can't imagine a pep that's meant to fix sleep taken in the morning

                  I think Pinealon is supposed to fix circadian rhythm. That's why Pinealon, Selank, Semax all are meant to be daytime or morning peps.

                  Epithalon is supposed to work with melatonin secretion or it promotes it. So taken at night.

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                    @gym.rat funny you say that I just ordered DSIP to try. I am in between cycles so figured I would try something new. Thinking about MotC and NAD+ but have to do some research. Work keeps getting in the way

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                      UPDATE. Just upped to 2mg yesterday am. Best night's sleep ever. According to my apple watch its the most REM and Deep sleep I have ever had. And my wife said no snoring. Some good dreams, too, but I won't get into that.

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                        UPDATE. Just upped to 2mg yesterday am. Best night's sleep ever. According to my apple watch its the most REM and Deep sleep I have ever had. And my wife said no snoring. Some good dreams, too, but I won't get into that.

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                        @Stevepep 2 mgs Of DSIP? Pinealon?

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                          @Stevepep 2 mgs Of DSIP? Pinealon?

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                          @Shaqdiesel sorry. Pinealon. 2mg as @randy suggested made the difference. I went from one and titrated to 2 over about a week. I didn’t get anything until I went to 2 . Big difference

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                            UPDATE. Just upped to 2mg yesterday am. Best night's sleep ever. According to my apple watch its the most REM and Deep sleep I have ever had. And my wife said no snoring. Some good dreams, too, but I won't get into that.

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                            @Stevepep I need to recon my vial ASAP now and give it a try.

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                              @Shaqdiesel sorry. Pinealon. 2mg as @randy suggested made the difference. I went from one and titrated to 2 over about a week. I didn’t get anything until I went to 2 . Big difference

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                              @Stevepep I was at 2.5mgs. Worked great for me too.

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                                My first round of Semax and Selank were subcutaneous. I been spraying them ever since. Both methods kick in the same. I been curious of pinealon, epithalon, dihexa, cerebrolysin.... Im sure they all can be taken via nasal spray right? Less pinning.

                                2M

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                                  My first round of Semax and Selank were subcutaneous. I been spraying them ever since. Both methods kick in the same. I been curious of pinealon, epithalon, dihexa, cerebrolysin.... Im sure they all can be taken via nasal spray right? Less pinning.

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                                  @martinmarin I think you'd need to look at molecular weight or something like that. Someone put in one of the threads which peps would work for IN based on size, which were iffy and which just wouldn't work.

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                                    My first round of Semax and Selank were subcutaneous. I been spraying them ever since. Both methods kick in the same. I been curious of pinealon, epithalon, dihexa, cerebrolysin.... Im sure they all can be taken via nasal spray right? Less pinning.

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                                    @martinmarin epithalon - yes but with a caveat that going above 600 mcg can induce a degree of agitation in some people. cerebrolysin - yes, effective, but not all the fractions will be absorbed because of aforementioned ~1000dal limit.

                                    attentiion is all you need

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                                      @Shaqdiesel sorry. Pinealon. 2mg as @randy suggested made the difference. I went from one and titrated to 2 over about a week. I didn’t get anything until I went to 2 . Big difference

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                                      @shaqdiesel Are you taking the Pinealon in the morning? I'm starting tomorrow and directions say morning, so, hope it works.

                                      Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                                        @Shaqdiesel sorry. Pinealon. 2mg as @randy suggested made the difference. I went from one and titrated to 2 over about a week. I didn’t get anything until I went to 2 . Big difference

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                                        @Stevepep said:

                                        2mg as @randy suggested made the difference. I went from one and titrated to 2 over about a week. I didn’t get anything until I went to 2 . Big difference

                                        Started out at 1mg. On day 2 of 8 at 1.5mg before titrating up to 2mg. Not noticing much of anything. Do you think it's worth it to cut those 8 days down to 4? Or does this pep need consistent dosage and titration to work properly?

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                                          @Stevepep said:

                                          2mg as @randy suggested made the difference. I went from one and titrated to 2 over about a week. I didn’t get anything until I went to 2 . Big difference

                                          Started out at 1mg. On day 2 of 8 at 1.5mg before titrating up to 2mg. Not noticing much of anything. Do you think it's worth it to cut those 8 days down to 4? Or does this pep need consistent dosage and titration to work properly?

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                                          @Nuncles I would I was doing the same thing and felt nothing. I just said screw it and went up to 2mg and had an amazing night's sleep. It was day 3 for me.

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