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    MOTS-C is perfectly fine with BAC NaCl. Where did you find this?

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      Yeah, that caught my eye as well. I’m assuming it’s from this source

      Peptide Precipitation: MOTS-c features a specific cationic (positively charged) tail. In certain environments, high salt concentrations (such as 0.9% sodium chloride) can disrupt these charges, causing the delicate peptide to fall out of solution and precipitate.

      I guess it’s a best practices thing. I’ll look further into it when I get some time.

      “Knowledge is the ultimate power.
      It’s not what you know that defines you, it’s that which you share, that defines you.”

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        After all the discussion about saline for MOTS-C you have to confuse me with this, and I am starting this morning. Ughhhhhh

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        @Stevepep

        I’m sure it’s an over cautious theoretical risk, but why not use standard BAC? I didn’t catch the discussion on it.

        “Knowledge is the ultimate power.
        It’s not what you know that defines you, it’s that which you share, that defines you.”

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          I would not use NaCl Bac on NAD+. Have no idea why it's stating "SALINE HEAVILY PREF"?

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            I can only guess it’s referring to phosphate buffered saline. For the non buffered NAD+. But it should clarify.

            “Knowledge is the ultimate power.
            It’s not what you know that defines you, it’s that which you share, that defines you.”

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            • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

              I can only guess it’s referring to phosphate buffered saline. For the non buffered NAD+. But it should clarify.

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              @Snake-Pepskin I wondered about that too.

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                @Stevepep

                I’m sure it’s an over cautious theoretical risk, but why not use standard BAC? I didn’t catch the discussion on it.

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                @Snake-Pepskin I did; people were reporting burning and some redness. I was fine. Guess I wasted some money; that's certainly not a first or a last.

                This compatibility thing can be from anywhere. Maybe Josh Holyfield LOL.

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                  Definitely had some burning. @stevepep I started Mots-c yesterday. It lasted maybe 5 minutes.

                  Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                    Definitely had some burning. @stevepep I started Mots-c yesterday. It lasted maybe 5 minutes.

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                    @BeeKind I had a little burn, but it was nothing really. No pain no gain

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                      @BeeKind I had a little burn, but it was nothing really. No pain no gain

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                      @BeeKind I started with 500mcg and will titrate up from there what dose are you using

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                        @BeeKind I started with 500mcg and will titrate up from there what dose are you using

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                        @Stevepep I jumped in at 2.5mg I'm going to do twice a week. are you doing daily?

                        Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                          @Stevepep I jumped in at 2.5mg I'm going to do twice a week. are you doing daily?

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                          @BeeKind daily yes

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                            @BeeKind daily yes

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                            @Stevepep I'm interested to know how your research goes at a daily injection vs my bi/tri-weekly.

                            Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                              We're such strange creatures. GHK kicks my ass, yet MOTS... nothing as far as site reaction. I haven't researched NAD+ yet, We'll see how that goes.

                              “Knowledge is the ultimate power.
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                                We're such strange creatures. GHK kicks my ass, yet MOTS... nothing as far as site reaction. I haven't researched NAD+ yet, We'll see how that goes.

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                                @Snake-Pepskin said:

                                We're such strange creatures. GHK kicks my ass, yet MOTS... nothing as far as site reaction. I haven't researched NAD+ yet, We'll see how that goes.

                                Snake, do yourself a favor. Get the buffered and use at least 10ml BAC, else, it's gonna smart. I just reconned 1000mg with 15 BAC and it's a breeze. Not saying you should use 15, but 10, at least.

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                                • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

                                  We're such strange creatures. GHK kicks my ass, yet MOTS... nothing as far as site reaction. I haven't researched NAD+ yet, We'll see how that goes.

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                                  @Snake-Pepskin I have had no issues with NAD+ and just use 3ml BAC. GHK-CU same for me that one just sucks

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                                    We're such strange creatures. GHK kicks my ass, yet MOTS... nothing as far as site reaction. I haven't researched NAD+ yet, We'll see how that goes.

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                                    @Snake-Pepskin I have had no issues with NAD+ and just use 3ml BAC. GHK-CU same for me that one just sucks

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                                      GHK-CU typically gives me sting like hours later but it's tolerable

                                      Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                                      • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

                                        This might help someone. dbcc483e-7549-4e3a-8dcd-5028dad8ac0a-image.jpeg

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                                        @Snake-Pepskin Not sure if saline BAC and Reta go together. I read multiple posts on Reddit. People tried reconstituting two Reta vials from the same batch using regular BAC and saline BAC — saline BAC turned it all gelly cloudy. Regular BAC was clear.

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                                        • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

                                          @Stevepep

                                          I’m sure it’s an over cautious theoretical risk, but why not use standard BAC? I didn’t catch the discussion on it.

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                                          @Snake-Pepskin said:

                                          @Stevepep

                                          I’m sure it’s an over cautious theoretical risk, but why not use standard BAC? I didn’t catch the discussion on it.

                                          Theory is saline BAC is isotonic, regular BAC is hypotonic. Isotonic liquid pins don't cause tissue stress that results in stinging or burning at research sites.

                                          Single dose Zep vials or pens have saline sterile water base.

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