Reconstitution Compatibility chart (grabbed from another group)

[Eleanor]

I would not use NaCl Bac on NAD+. Have no idea why it's stating "SALINE HEAVILY PREF"?

[Snake Pepskin]

I can only guess it’s referring to phosphate buffered saline. For the non buffered NAD+. But it should clarify.

[Eleanor]

@Snake-Pepskin I wondered about that too.

[Stevepep]

@Snake-Pepskin I did; people were reporting burning and some redness. I was fine. Guess I wasted some money; that's certainly not a first or a last.

This compatibility thing can be from anywhere. Maybe Josh Holyfield LOL.

[BeeKind]

Definitely had some burning. @stevepep I started Mots-c yesterday. It lasted maybe 5 minutes.

[Stevepep]

@BeeKind I had a little burn, but it was nothing really. No pain no gain

[Stevepep]

@BeeKind I started with 500mcg and will titrate up from there what dose are you using

[BeeKind]

@Stevepep I jumped in at 2.5mg I'm going to do twice a week. are you doing daily?

[Stevepep]

@BeeKind daily yes

[BeeKind]

@Stevepep I'm interested to know how your research goes at a daily injection vs my bi/tri-weekly.

[Snake Pepskin]

We're such strange creatures. GHK kicks my ass, yet MOTS... nothing as far as site reaction. I haven't researched NAD+ yet, We'll see how that goes.

[Eleanor]

@Snake-Pepskin said:

We're such strange creatures. GHK kicks my ass, yet MOTS... nothing as far as site reaction. I haven't researched NAD+ yet, We'll see how that goes.

Snake, do yourself a favor. Get the buffered and use at least 10ml BAC, else, it's gonna smart. I just reconned 1000mg with 15 BAC and it's a breeze. Not saying you should use 15, but 10, at least.

[Stevepep]

@Snake-Pepskin I have had no issues with NAD+ and just use 3ml BAC. GHK-CU same for me that one just sucks

[Stevepep]

@Snake-Pepskin I have had no issues with NAD+ and just use 3ml BAC. GHK-CU same for me that one just sucks

[BeeKind]

GHK-CU typically gives me sting like hours later but it's tolerable

[pep_researcher]

@Snake-Pepskin Not sure if saline BAC and Reta go together. I read multiple posts on Reddit. People tried reconstituting two Reta vials from the same batch using regular BAC and saline BAC — saline BAC turned it all gelly cloudy. Regular BAC was clear.

[pep_researcher]

@Snake-Pepskin said:

@Stevepep

I’m sure it’s an over cautious theoretical risk, but why not use standard BAC? I didn’t catch the discussion on it.

Theory is saline BAC is isotonic, regular BAC is hypotonic. Isotonic liquid pins don't cause tissue stress that results in stinging or burning at research sites.

Single dose Zep vials or pens have saline sterile water base.

[Stevepep]

@pep_researcher the issue I guess is bacteria you have no protection if you use saline. Although I have contacts and it’s what we use to disinfect them. It’s all confusing

[Eleanor]

@Stevepep said:

@pep_researcher the issue I guess is bacteria you have no protection if you use saline. Although I have contacts and it’s what we use to disinfect them. It’s all confusing

The Pfizer NaCl and other salines I see also have 0.9% alcohol. Are you talking about something other than those?

[pep_researcher]

@Stevepep @eleanor Answered. When one says "saline BAC" it's always with 0.9% benzyl alcohol.

• Sterile water — no sodium chloride, no benzyl alcohol
• Sterile saline — sterile water, 0.9% sodium chloride, no benzyl alcohol
• Regular BAC — sterile water, 0.9% benzyl alcohol
• Saline BAC — sterile water, 0.9% sodium chloride, 0.9% benzyl alcohol.