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  • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

    @Stevepep

    I’m sure it’s an over cautious theoretical risk, but why not use standard BAC? I didn’t catch the discussion on it.

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    @Snake-Pepskin I did; people were reporting burning and some redness. I was fine. Guess I wasted some money; that's certainly not a first or a last.

    This compatibility thing can be from anywhere. Maybe Josh Holyfield LOL.

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      Definitely had some burning. @stevepep I started Mots-c yesterday. It lasted maybe 5 minutes.

      Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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      • BeeKindB BeeKind

        Definitely had some burning. @stevepep I started Mots-c yesterday. It lasted maybe 5 minutes.

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        @BeeKind I had a little burn, but it was nothing really. No pain no gain

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          @BeeKind I had a little burn, but it was nothing really. No pain no gain

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          @BeeKind I started with 500mcg and will titrate up from there what dose are you using

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            @BeeKind I started with 500mcg and will titrate up from there what dose are you using

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            @Stevepep I jumped in at 2.5mg I'm going to do twice a week. are you doing daily?

            Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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            • BeeKindB BeeKind

              @Stevepep I jumped in at 2.5mg I'm going to do twice a week. are you doing daily?

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              @BeeKind daily yes

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                @BeeKind daily yes

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                @Stevepep I'm interested to know how your research goes at a daily injection vs my bi/tri-weekly.

                Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                  We're such strange creatures. GHK kicks my ass, yet MOTS... nothing as far as site reaction. I haven't researched NAD+ yet, We'll see how that goes.

                  “Knowledge is the ultimate power.
                  It’s not what you know that defines you, it’s that which you share, that defines you.”

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                  • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

                    We're such strange creatures. GHK kicks my ass, yet MOTS... nothing as far as site reaction. I haven't researched NAD+ yet, We'll see how that goes.

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                    @Snake-Pepskin said:

                    We're such strange creatures. GHK kicks my ass, yet MOTS... nothing as far as site reaction. I haven't researched NAD+ yet, We'll see how that goes.

                    Snake, do yourself a favor. Get the buffered and use at least 10ml BAC, else, it's gonna smart. I just reconned 1000mg with 15 BAC and it's a breeze. Not saying you should use 15, but 10, at least.

                    Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                    • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

                      We're such strange creatures. GHK kicks my ass, yet MOTS... nothing as far as site reaction. I haven't researched NAD+ yet, We'll see how that goes.

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                      @Snake-Pepskin I have had no issues with NAD+ and just use 3ml BAC. GHK-CU same for me that one just sucks

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                      • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

                        We're such strange creatures. GHK kicks my ass, yet MOTS... nothing as far as site reaction. I haven't researched NAD+ yet, We'll see how that goes.

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                        @Snake-Pepskin I have had no issues with NAD+ and just use 3ml BAC. GHK-CU same for me that one just sucks

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                          GHK-CU typically gives me sting like hours later but it's tolerable

                          Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                          • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

                            This might help someone. dbcc483e-7549-4e3a-8dcd-5028dad8ac0a-image.jpeg

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                            @Snake-Pepskin Not sure if saline BAC and Reta go together. I read multiple posts on Reddit. People tried reconstituting two Reta vials from the same batch using regular BAC and saline BAC — saline BAC turned it all gelly cloudy. Regular BAC was clear.

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                            • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

                              @Stevepep

                              I’m sure it’s an over cautious theoretical risk, but why not use standard BAC? I didn’t catch the discussion on it.

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                              @Snake-Pepskin said:

                              @Stevepep

                              I’m sure it’s an over cautious theoretical risk, but why not use standard BAC? I didn’t catch the discussion on it.

                              Theory is saline BAC is isotonic, regular BAC is hypotonic. Isotonic liquid pins don't cause tissue stress that results in stinging or burning at research sites.

                              Single dose Zep vials or pens have saline sterile water base.

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                                @Snake-Pepskin said:

                                @Stevepep

                                I’m sure it’s an over cautious theoretical risk, but why not use standard BAC? I didn’t catch the discussion on it.

                                Theory is saline BAC is isotonic, regular BAC is hypotonic. Isotonic liquid pins don't cause tissue stress that results in stinging or burning at research sites.

                                Single dose Zep vials or pens have saline sterile water base.

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                                @pep_researcher the issue I guess is bacteria you have no protection if you use saline. Although I have contacts and it’s what we use to disinfect them. It’s all confusing

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                                  @pep_researcher the issue I guess is bacteria you have no protection if you use saline. Although I have contacts and it’s what we use to disinfect them. It’s all confusing

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                                  @Stevepep said:

                                  @pep_researcher the issue I guess is bacteria you have no protection if you use saline. Although I have contacts and it’s what we use to disinfect them. It’s all confusing

                                  The Pfizer NaCl and other salines I see also have 0.9% alcohol. Are you talking about something other than those?

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                                    @pep_researcher the issue I guess is bacteria you have no protection if you use saline. Although I have contacts and it’s what we use to disinfect them. It’s all confusing

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                                    @Stevepep @eleanor Answered. When one says "saline BAC" it's always with 0.9% benzyl alcohol.

                                    • Sterile water — no sodium chloride, no benzyl alcohol
                                    • Sterile saline — sterile water, 0.9% sodium chloride, no benzyl alcohol
                                    • Regular BAC — sterile water, 0.9% benzyl alcohol
                                    • Saline BAC — sterile water, 0.9% sodium chloride, 0.9% benzyl alcohol.
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                                    • S Stevepep

                                      @pep_researcher the issue I guess is bacteria you have no protection if you use saline. Although I have contacts and it’s what we use to disinfect them. It’s all confusing

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                                      @Stevepep Further

                                      • Sterile Water, regular BAC — hypotonic, can cause tissue stress at research sites.
                                      • Sterile saline, saline BAC — isotonic, less tissue stress at research sites.

                                      Having said that one cannot just use saline BAC for everything to avoid research site sting, because different peps interact differently with sodium chloride.

                                      The posted chart is interesting although it may have some errors, like Reta + Saline BAC.

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                                        @Stevepep Further

                                        • Sterile Water, regular BAC — hypotonic, can cause tissue stress at research sites.
                                        • Sterile saline, saline BAC — isotonic, less tissue stress at research sites.

                                        Having said that one cannot just use saline BAC for everything to avoid research site sting, because different peps interact differently with sodium chloride.

                                        The posted chart is interesting although it may have some errors, like Reta + Saline BAC.

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                                        @pep_researcher so is mots ok with bac saline and why don’t we use it for other peptides it’s far cheaper and if less irritating why not? Like maybe ghk-cu

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                                        • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

                                          This might help someone. dbcc483e-7549-4e3a-8dcd-5028dad8ac0a-image.jpeg

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                                          @Snake-Pepskin
                                          HOL' UP
                                          You're supposed to recon IGF with 100% AA?!?!?!?
                                          My understanding it was like... 3 drops and the rest BW.

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