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  • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

    This might help someone. dbcc483e-7549-4e3a-8dcd-5028dad8ac0a-image.jpeg

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    @Snake-Pepskin Not sure if saline BAC and Reta go together. I read multiple posts on Reddit. People tried reconstituting two Reta vials from the same batch using regular BAC and saline BAC — saline BAC turned it all gelly cloudy. Regular BAC was clear.

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    • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

      @Stevepep

      I’m sure it’s an over cautious theoretical risk, but why not use standard BAC? I didn’t catch the discussion on it.

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      @Snake-Pepskin said:

      @Stevepep

      I’m sure it’s an over cautious theoretical risk, but why not use standard BAC? I didn’t catch the discussion on it.

      Theory is saline BAC is isotonic, regular BAC is hypotonic. Isotonic liquid pins don't cause tissue stress that results in stinging or burning at research sites.

      Single dose Zep vials or pens have saline sterile water base.

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      • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

        @Snake-Pepskin said:

        @Stevepep

        I’m sure it’s an over cautious theoretical risk, but why not use standard BAC? I didn’t catch the discussion on it.

        Theory is saline BAC is isotonic, regular BAC is hypotonic. Isotonic liquid pins don't cause tissue stress that results in stinging or burning at research sites.

        Single dose Zep vials or pens have saline sterile water base.

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        @pep_researcher the issue I guess is bacteria you have no protection if you use saline. Although I have contacts and it’s what we use to disinfect them. It’s all confusing

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        • S Stevepep

          @pep_researcher the issue I guess is bacteria you have no protection if you use saline. Although I have contacts and it’s what we use to disinfect them. It’s all confusing

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          @Stevepep said:

          @pep_researcher the issue I guess is bacteria you have no protection if you use saline. Although I have contacts and it’s what we use to disinfect them. It’s all confusing

          The Pfizer NaCl and other salines I see also have 0.9% alcohol. Are you talking about something other than those?

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          • S Stevepep

            @pep_researcher the issue I guess is bacteria you have no protection if you use saline. Although I have contacts and it’s what we use to disinfect them. It’s all confusing

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            @Stevepep @eleanor Answered. When one says "saline BAC" it's always with 0.9% benzyl alcohol.

            • Sterile water — no sodium chloride, no benzyl alcohol
            • Sterile saline — sterile water, 0.9% sodium chloride, no benzyl alcohol
            • Regular BAC — sterile water, 0.9% benzyl alcohol
            • Saline BAC — sterile water, 0.9% sodium chloride, 0.9% benzyl alcohol.
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            • S Stevepep

              @pep_researcher the issue I guess is bacteria you have no protection if you use saline. Although I have contacts and it’s what we use to disinfect them. It’s all confusing

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              @Stevepep Further

              • Sterile Water, regular BAC — hypotonic, can cause tissue stress at research sites.
              • Sterile saline, saline BAC — isotonic, less tissue stress at research sites.

              Having said that one cannot just use saline BAC for everything to avoid research site sting, because different peps interact differently with sodium chloride.

              The posted chart is interesting although it may have some errors, like Reta + Saline BAC.

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              • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

                @Stevepep Further

                • Sterile Water, regular BAC — hypotonic, can cause tissue stress at research sites.
                • Sterile saline, saline BAC — isotonic, less tissue stress at research sites.

                Having said that one cannot just use saline BAC for everything to avoid research site sting, because different peps interact differently with sodium chloride.

                The posted chart is interesting although it may have some errors, like Reta + Saline BAC.

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                @pep_researcher so is mots ok with bac saline and why don’t we use it for other peptides it’s far cheaper and if less irritating why not? Like maybe ghk-cu

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                • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

                  This might help someone. dbcc483e-7549-4e3a-8dcd-5028dad8ac0a-image.jpeg

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                  @Snake-Pepskin
                  HOL' UP
                  You're supposed to recon IGF with 100% AA?!?!?!?
                  My understanding it was like... 3 drops and the rest BW.

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                  • S Stevepep

                    @pep_researcher so is mots ok with bac saline and why don’t we use it for other peptides it’s far cheaper and if less irritating why not? Like maybe ghk-cu

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                    @Stevepep said:

                    @pep_researcher so is mots ok with bac saline and why don’t we use it for other peptides it’s far cheaper and if less irritating why not? Like maybe ghk-cu

                    Go to Mot-c Reconstitution at peptide protocols (dot) app

                    With regard to the GHK-cu, I don't think copper will like it but I haven't checked.

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                      Yeah that chart isn't the source of truth. I wouldn't trust it.

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                      • S Stevepep

                        @Snake-Pepskin I have had no issues with NAD+ and just use 3ml BAC. GHK-CU same for me that one just sucks

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                        @Stevepep @snake-pepskin I also just started researching with 100mg NAD+ (Nexaph) with 3ml BAC and no issues at all.

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                        • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

                          Yeah that chart isn't the source of truth. I wouldn't trust it.

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                          @pep_researcher so let's correct it. What is your input/corrections?

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                          • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

                            @pep_researcher so let's correct it. What is your input/corrections?

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                            @Snake-Pepskin I don't have authoritative guide on which peps are compatible with saline BAC.

                            General thumb rule — most are compatible with regular BAC, some from those will be good with saline BAC too, some will not like sodium chloride and can gel.

                            I gave an example that I saw someone posting on Reddit that Reta didn't like saline BAC when they tried two Reta vials from the same batch. I asked an AI tool too and it said Reta will gel with saline BAC but tirzepatide and semaglutide will be fine with it.

                            Gist — that chart is NOT the ground truth. But I don't have the ground truth. Will do a chat session with multiple AI tools when I've extra time on hand and find out for popular peps. 🙂

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