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  • Stan DouglasS Stan Douglas

    @Americanchild said:

    syringe guide from etsy

    Whaaa? Search-search-search...
    Cool, let's put "peptide" into the search and see...
    WHAAAAA?!?!?

    Down the rabbit hole of things I didn't need but now I need!
    3d printed cases, you can have them customize your labels, lil clips to put on pins to ID the peps.
    I LUV it!!!

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    @Stan-Douglas for those wanting to see what Stan is probably printing on his machine 🙂

    Most popular:
    https://makerworld.com/en/models/1763906-syringe-needle-vial-guide?from=search#profileId-1876831

    Couple other options:
    https://makerworld.com/en/models/2616160-peptide-insulin-syringe-guide-for-3ml-vial?from=search#profileId-2887042

    https://makerworld.com/en/models/2444714-steadydraw-syringe-and-vial-injection-support?from=search#profileId-2683098

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    • hunt_akH hunt_ak

      @Stan-Douglas for those wanting to see what Stan is probably printing on his machine 🙂

      Most popular:
      https://makerworld.com/en/models/1763906-syringe-needle-vial-guide?from=search#profileId-1876831

      Couple other options:
      https://makerworld.com/en/models/2616160-peptide-insulin-syringe-guide-for-3ml-vial?from=search#profileId-2887042

      https://makerworld.com/en/models/2444714-steadydraw-syringe-and-vial-injection-support?from=search#profileId-2683098

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      @hunt_ak said:

      to see what Stan is probably printing on his machine

      I don't use any of this stuff, I'm such a cheapy I use the address labels charities send you for free as vial labels and write on those with a sharpie... peps are expensive enough! 😲

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        I have been noticing they are getting more difficult to pierce as well. If you are not exactly in the middle, and straight down, it easily takes 3 or so times. By then the syringe starts to dull. So, I never heard of the syringe guide, looked them up on Etsy and wow, what a genius idea. For 7 bucks, you cant go wrong. Reusable an infinite amount of times versus transerring pep to different throw away vials or pens was a better solution for me.

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        • hunt_akH hunt_ak

          @Stan-Douglas for those wanting to see what Stan is probably printing on his machine 🙂

          Most popular:
          https://makerworld.com/en/models/1763906-syringe-needle-vial-guide?from=search#profileId-1876831

          Couple other options:
          https://makerworld.com/en/models/2616160-peptide-insulin-syringe-guide-for-3ml-vial?from=search#profileId-2887042

          https://makerworld.com/en/models/2444714-steadydraw-syringe-and-vial-injection-support?from=search#profileId-2683098

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          #19

          @hunt_ak lol that's excessive engineering just to keep using a poorly made rubber stopper. 😂

          Why not just transfer pep to a better sterile empty vial with good quality rubber top? I posted it here that those have smooth buttery rubber stoppers, no piercing struggles.

          But I wanted to hear from the community if they are experiencing this, and looks like they are. I'm not alone.

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          • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

            @EXTROPIAN or just get yourself better vials and transfer the liquid to it and avoid the headache of piercing poorly made rubber stoppers from China!

            Extra ALK or similar good quality sterile vials are not that big an expense.

            We can't have it all ways unfortunately.

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            @pep_researcher If you're going through all that trouble the just do pens/cartridges. Im sure you can still stick a 23-25G in those vials to transfer. If it is a quality issue then there is a chance on leaching, degradation of who knows what these new butyl rubber stoppers quality is today. "Rising costs for butyl and halobutyl rubber increased in early 2026 driven by higher expenses for isobutylene and strong demand from industrial and tire manufacturing sectors."

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            • EXTROPIANE EXTROPIAN

              @pep_researcher If you're going through all that trouble the just do pens/cartridges. Im sure you can still stick a 23-25G in those vials to transfer. If it is a quality issue then there is a chance on leaching, degradation of who knows what these new butyl rubber stoppers quality is today. "Rising costs for butyl and halobutyl rubber increased in early 2026 driven by higher expenses for isobutylene and strong demand from industrial and tire manufacturing sectors."

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              @EXTROPIAN I'm sitting on a huge stockpile of ordinary noodles and vials so I'm unwilling to switch right now. Will consider in the future.

              But I agree it's a legit good option especially for precise dose measurement.

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              • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

                FWIW I had got some 2ml ALK vials. I transferred my reconned pep to it. ALK rubber stoppers are smooth like butter.

                So it's not about individual skill to pierce the vial. It ain't rocket science and I ain't RUO newb. Been researching for several months now and this problem didn't exist 6 months ago.

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                @pep_researcher said:

                FWIW I had got some 2ml ALK vials. I transferred my reconned pep to it. ALK rubber stoppers are smooth like butter.

                So it's not about individual skill to pierce the vial. It ain't rocket science and I ain't RUO newb. Been researching for several months now and this problem didn't exist 6 months ago.

                The larger ALK vials are not smooth. They can be tough as a leather boot. I have lots of them and struggle getting the 23 through the stopper.

                Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

                  @EXTROPIAN I'm sitting on a huge stockpile of ordinary noodles and vials so I'm unwilling to switch right now. Will consider in the future.

                  But I agree it's a legit good option especially for precise dose measurement.

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                  @pep_researcher Or you can sacrifice one needle to punch a few holes in the rubber stopper Target area / Puncture site to soften it up.

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                  • E Eleanor

                    @pep_researcher said:

                    FWIW I had got some 2ml ALK vials. I transferred my reconned pep to it. ALK rubber stoppers are smooth like butter.

                    So it's not about individual skill to pierce the vial. It ain't rocket science and I ain't RUO newb. Been researching for several months now and this problem didn't exist 6 months ago.

                    The larger ALK vials are not smooth. They can be tough as a leather boot. I have lots of them and struggle getting the 23 through the stopper.

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                    #24

                    @Eleanor how much larger? Like 20ml or 5ml?

                    I actually have Ultra Spec not ALK. Have used 5ml and no issues with rubber stopper. Smooth like butter.

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                      I have both types of vials and I don't have a problem with smaller needles for injection, only the mixing needles seem difficult.

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                      • E Eleanor

                        I have both types of vials and I don't have a problem with smaller needles for injection, only the mixing needles seem difficult.

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                        @Eleanor I'm confused so do you have a problem with the ALK vial rubber tops or not?

                        If you do I was asking is it for specific vial size? 2ml, 5ml, 10ml, 20ml?

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                        • E Eleanor

                          @Americanchild Got a link to that guide?

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                          @Eleanor https://www.etsy.com/listing/1795081847/syringe-guide-reusable-peptide-vial

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                          • AmericanchildA Americanchild

                            @Eleanor https://www.etsy.com/listing/1795081847/syringe-guide-reusable-peptide-vial

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                            @Americanchild Thanks much! Hoping to find something for 3, 5 & 10ml too. Don't know if they make them, yet.

                            Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                              I would email the seller because he prints these himself.I would think that he would be able to come up with guides for the larger vials. I have a slight tremor from a medication that I take for neuropathy, and these guides have been a lifesaver.

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                              • AmericanchildA Americanchild

                                I would email the seller because he prints these himself.I would think that he would be able to come up with guides for the larger vials. I have a slight tremor from a medication that I take for neuropathy, and these guides have been a lifesaver.

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                                @Americanchild It's not the caps in my case, it's the size of the needle. My 29G 5/16 goes through all of them like butter, no matter where they land, but the 23G 1.5" is a different matter. This is NOT your case, I get that, just me.

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                                  Sorry I don't have a solution for that, but I understand the frustration.

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                                    PRD2016InjectionPort401.png

                                    Or you can use an injection-port with a Luer lock needle. You might be able to pull with a insulin needle.

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