Noob pen questions
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Not new to peps and syringes but just researching pens and wondered a couple things I haven't found answers to.
First, I'm looking at getting the V2 from here as my first pen, for reta, thoughts on that or is there a pen better suited for a newbie?
Second, with syringes, 8mm needle, I always pinch and go at a 45 degree angle but my understanding is you go straight at 90 degrees with a pen, why? Needle length is the same right?
If needle length varies how do I know what length to get? Ultimately I would get pens for other peps I use like wolverine and kisspeptin (does needle length change based on pep?)
Thanks for a great group!
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First part. You won't go wrong with the V2 but I can almost guarantee that most here would recommend a V4 over it. It has a better tactile feel during the push. If polls are possible here, a favorite pen poll would be interesting. If you have more than 1 peptide, I recommend ordering a few pens and save yourself the shipping charges down the road. Most people order more.
I can't really answer the second part regarding the angle. But the needle gauge and length is a personal preference. Some say longer needles help with those "stingy" peptides. Some say it doesn't matter. I have some 29 gauge 12mm arriving today to test the theory myself.
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I have v2, v3 ultra, v4, xulin from the store here (https://peptidecritic.com/store) and one or two from amazon. I think V2s.
I like the normal pen cap over the spring loaded version. It isn't like they get dirty but I like not having a hole in the pen over the vial. Beyond that the v3 ultra and xulin have the smoothest action to me. For my money I'd say go v3 ultra or xulin.
The main benefit of a longer needle than you can get on a pen (again just my opinion) are if you want to to deliver something intramuscular, want to go deeper to get closer to tissue (some bpc/tb howtos I've seen suggest deeper injections near the injury) or are doing a large shot (.5ml+ like lipo-c) and want to get it deeper to avoid lumps on the skin. Beyond that normal pen needles in 29g can be found long enough to do angled injections into your research animal.
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I have multiples of all of them. For the money go plastique it has great action, less waste and is easy to handle with the added feature the dial won’t go past what’s left. Second would be the V3 Ultra. If money isn’t an issue the gansolin is the best pen. I used to be all in on the V4 and now it’s v3 ultra and the plastique for me. I am waiting on the new color to order more
In terms of needle size I do 33g 6mm. I have tried them alll and that gives me the least amount of bruising and reaction. It’s a personal thing though you may have to try several
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So do you all go straight in or angled? Most videos/pics I see are straight in and just 1 or 2 that mentioned angle which got me confused
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So do you all go straight in or angled? Most videos/pics I see are straight in and just 1 or 2 that mentioned angle which got me confused
So do you all go straight in or angled? Most videos/pics I see are straight in and just 1 or 2 that mentioned angle which got me confused
Personally... straight with pen and needle. I've never tried 45 degrees with any injection.
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V2! I use flat top needles and short ones. Angle never made sense to me. Maybe it’s to distract you.
Edit: the angle thing (according to google) is so you remain SubQ and don’t go IM. So pinching AND going at an angle sort of doesn’t make sense. Using a short or flat top needle likely eliminates this, and if you know your body and how much blubber you have, it shouldn’t be too hard to inject subQ.
I have inadvertently gone IM a time or two, and it’s easy to know when I have because I get a giant bruise. Pro tip: when you’ve lost a bunch of weight on GLP-1’s, stop injecting directly into areas where you don’t have fat anymore (back of arm).
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First part. You won't go wrong with the V2 but I can almost guarantee that most here would recommend a V4 over it. It has a better tactile feel during the push. If polls are possible here, a favorite pen poll would be interesting. If you have more than 1 peptide, I recommend ordering a few pens and save yourself the shipping charges down the road. Most people order more.
I can't really answer the second part regarding the angle. But the needle gauge and length is a personal preference. Some say longer needles help with those "stingy" peptides. Some say it doesn't matter. I have some 29 gauge 12mm arriving today to test the theory myself.
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