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The "ghetto" Reta Stack. Tirz + Survo/Maz

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  • AmericanchildA Offline
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    Rebekah the fluffy rat is down 2.4 lbs since starting survo 0.6 mg. She would like to increase to1.2 mg this week which is weak three. No side effects. Tirz 7.5 but if survo kicks in will decrease her to 5 mg. Should I go ahead and give her that dose or keep her at 0.6 mg for another a week or two? OPINIONS WELCOME.

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    • Sable DarqnessS Offline
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      Clouse the Lab Mouse has been suplimenting the Tirz with the Cagri, was a success but undecided if i should get more Cagri or perhaps trying the Survo or Mazdu

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      • AmericanchildA Offline
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        Rebekah the rat says go survo! She had been in a stall for months and it finally broke.

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          Thanks for posting this. Was looking to augment because of fatty liver issues a few years ago, so wanted supplement in a glucagon with my tirz. Been doing reta 2mg but the skin thing has been off putting, but not so much to stop, but titration up is unlikely. Like to try these two options next. EZ Peptides didn't show any in stock. Any other USA source recommendations out there? Thanks.

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          • NewenoughN Newenough

            Thanks for posting this. Was looking to augment because of fatty liver issues a few years ago, so wanted supplement in a glucagon with my tirz. Been doing reta 2mg but the skin thing has been off putting, but not so much to stop, but titration up is unlikely. Like to try these two options next. EZ Peptides didn't show any in stock. Any other USA source recommendations out there? Thanks.

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            #51

            @markgroce Peptira and Peptidology have Survodutide in stock. I got from them. Nextaph has kits and much cheaper, but the stock is slightly old if that's not an issue for you. EZ is showing Survodutide in stock too. Did you check correctly?

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            • RandyR Offline
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              ez singles are the same batch as nexaph kits. Just buy the kit. I have 3 of those kits and one of the vials in a pen right now

              "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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              • jilljJ jillj

                @pep_researcher How are you doing on this?

                I have MazD and will be starting it Tues. Pinning Tirz on Sat.

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                @F8hnGM4Eva Missed this question.

                Rat is doing fine. The scale isn't moving very fast but rat has been weight training with a trainer, hitting more protein, and recently a bunch of people told that 🐀 has shrunk a lot. So 🐀 is not paying much attention to absolute values on scale. 🐀 can also lift a lot more than a few months ago.

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                • Hammertime65H Offline
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                  For those on the ghetto reta, tell me what I should do. I'm playing with 6mg tirz and 2.4 survo. Ever since I started upping the survo my food noise is back and I'm eating more (probably getting close to 2000 cal, I'm 6'3, 308 lbs, was 376 in Jan). I don't like that the food noise is back. Do I up the survo or up the tirz to get rid of the food cravings? Previous week I lost 5 lbs, this last week I didn't lose any. I have a long way to go.

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                    Do any vendors sell a Survo/tirz blend in a vial? Always looking to reduce pins!

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                    • Hammertime65H Hammertime65

                      For those on the ghetto reta, tell me what I should do. I'm playing with 6mg tirz and 2.4 survo. Ever since I started upping the survo my food noise is back and I'm eating more (probably getting close to 2000 cal, I'm 6'3, 308 lbs, was 376 in Jan). I don't like that the food noise is back. Do I up the survo or up the tirz to get rid of the food cravings? Previous week I lost 5 lbs, this last week I didn't lose any. I have a long way to go.

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                      @Hammertime65 you could up tirz and back off survo. I have read the survo can increase hunger.

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                      • M mhf

                        Do any vendors sell a Survo/tirz blend in a vial? Always looking to reduce pins!

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                        @mhf Blends are not recommended in case of GLP-1s. You can stack separately. It has something to do with individual compound's pH and interactions.

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                        • Hammertime65H Hammertime65

                          For those on the ghetto reta, tell me what I should do. I'm playing with 6mg tirz and 2.4 survo. Ever since I started upping the survo my food noise is back and I'm eating more (probably getting close to 2000 cal, I'm 6'3, 308 lbs, was 376 in Jan). I don't like that the food noise is back. Do I up the survo or up the tirz to get rid of the food cravings? Previous week I lost 5 lbs, this last week I didn't lose any. I have a long way to go.

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                          @Hammertime65 It's definitely not your imagination. I started survo last week at 0.6 with tirz 8 to 10. I am ravenous sometimes with a real sweet tooth. Food noise never stops! Very weird. Other than that, I feel no different and still in stall. I'm just going to hold here and see what happens with the survo and not up the dose. I have no itch at all. Someone in post above said magnesium helps eliminate itch and I can vouch for that because of Re-Mag; it's the best around and not cost prohibitive; 1/4 to 1/2 TEAspoon per liter of H2O, take that seriously. I inject Tirz on Thurs and Survo on Friday. I'm worried that if I wait until day 3 or 4 after the Tirz titer drops, then do the Survo, my hunger will get out of control. I'm okay so far. Just waiting to see what happens. Good luck.

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                            @Hammertime65 It's definitely not your imagination. I started survo last week at 0.6 with tirz 8 to 10. I am ravenous sometimes with a real sweet tooth. Food noise never stops! Very weird. Other than that, I feel no different and still in stall. I'm just going to hold here and see what happens with the survo and not up the dose. I have no itch at all. Someone in post above said magnesium helps eliminate itch and I can vouch for that because of Re-Mag; it's the best around and not cost prohibitive; 1/4 to 1/2 TEAspoon per liter of H2O, take that seriously. I inject Tirz on Thurs and Survo on Friday. I'm worried that if I wait until day 3 or 4 after the Tirz titer drops, then do the Survo, my hunger will get out of control. I'm okay so far. Just waiting to see what happens. Good luck.

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                            @Eleanor @hammertime65 Interesting about food noise. My experience is different.

                            I've been researching 5mg Tirz + gradually upped Survo to now 1.2mg stack for over a month now. I'm glad that my hunger is back because on 10mg Tirzepatide research I was miserably starving and fatigued. On this stack even though my hunger is back, I can't eat a lot. I get full very quickly.

                            My weight has moved only a little, but I've decided to not obsess over it, take it easy as I'm not in an obese zone anymore.

                            Will switch to Reta after these Tirz and Survo vials are done. That will be the first time me jumping on Reta for a serious research after 6 months on tirz.

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                              @Eleanor @hammertime65 Interesting about food noise. My experience is different.

                              I've been researching 5mg Tirz + gradually upped Survo to now 1.2mg stack for over a month now. I'm glad that my hunger is back because on 10mg Tirzepatide research I was miserably starving and fatigued. On this stack even though my hunger is back, I can't eat a lot. I get full very quickly.

                              My weight has moved only a little, but I've decided to not obsess over it, take it easy as I'm not in an obese zone anymore.

                              Will switch to Reta after these Tirz and Survo vials are done. That will be the first time me jumping on Reta for a serious research after 6 months on tirz.

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                              @pep_researcher I get full easier too, but I get hungry more often. It's real odd. I didn't feel that way when I was strictly on Tirz.

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                                @pep_researcher I get full easier too, but I get hungry more often. It's real odd. I didn't feel that way when I was strictly on Tirz.

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                                @Eleanor Oh okay. I somehow have naturally shifted to 2MAD.

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                                  @Eleanor Oh okay. I somehow have naturally shifted to 2MAD.

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                                  @pep_researcher I've decided to stop survo or any other glp additions after this bottle is done. I'm doing well just on Tirz; if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

                                  The line up for me will be Tirz 1x wk, NAD+ & Cartalax 1x/day, GLOW every other day. That's it, at least for now. No need to add.

                                  Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                                    Perhaps it was my body going through adjustments, but the food noise has calmed down (but not quiet like it was when I started tirz). I went 24 hours before eating yesterday. My calories for the day was less than 1000. I know, that is too low. But it is nice to not be constantly thinking about what I'm going to eat later in the day. Still on 6mg tirz, 2.4mg survo, plus a lot of other peps. Finally down 70 pounds as of today.

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                                      Great job! You got this.

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                                      • Hammertime65H Hammertime65

                                        Perhaps it was my body going through adjustments, but the food noise has calmed down (but not quiet like it was when I started tirz). I went 24 hours before eating yesterday. My calories for the day was less than 1000. I know, that is too low. But it is nice to not be constantly thinking about what I'm going to eat later in the day. Still on 6mg tirz, 2.4mg survo, plus a lot of other peps. Finally down 70 pounds as of today.

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                                        @Hammertime65 CONGRATULATIONS on your 70 lbs. down! Great work!

                                        Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                                        • A amberlynnek

                                          What if your rat is on 12.5mg Tirz, how would one work survo into this dose? Or should it make an immediate switch to try Reta first?

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                                          @amberlynnek said:

                                          What if your rat is on 12.5mg Tirz, how would one work survo into this dose? Or should it make an immediate switch to try Reta first?

                                          Is the Tirz alone working for you?

                                          “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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