The "ghetto" Reta Stack. Tirz + Survo/Maz
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Thanks for posting this. Was looking to augment because of fatty liver issues a few years ago, so wanted supplement in a glucagon with my tirz. Been doing reta 2mg but the skin thing has been off putting, but not so much to stop, but titration up is unlikely. Like to try these two options next. EZ Peptides didn't show any in stock. Any other USA source recommendations out there? Thanks.
@markgroce Peptira and Peptidology have Survodutide in stock. I got from them. Nextaph has kits and much cheaper, but the stock is slightly old if that's not an issue for you. EZ is showing Survodutide in stock too. Did you check correctly?
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@pep_researcher How are you doing on this?
I have MazD and will be starting it Tues. Pinning Tirz on Sat.
@F8hnGM4Eva Missed this question.
Rat is doing fine. The scale isn't moving very fast but rat has been weight training with a trainer, hitting more protein, and recently a bunch of people told that
has shrunk a lot. So is not paying much attention to absolute values on scale. can also lift a lot more than a few months ago. -
For those on the ghetto reta, tell me what I should do. I'm playing with 6mg tirz and 2.4 survo. Ever since I started upping the survo my food noise is back and I'm eating more (probably getting close to 2000 cal, I'm 6'3, 308 lbs, was 376 in Jan). I don't like that the food noise is back. Do I up the survo or up the tirz to get rid of the food cravings? Previous week I lost 5 lbs, this last week I didn't lose any. I have a long way to go.
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For those on the ghetto reta, tell me what I should do. I'm playing with 6mg tirz and 2.4 survo. Ever since I started upping the survo my food noise is back and I'm eating more (probably getting close to 2000 cal, I'm 6'3, 308 lbs, was 376 in Jan). I don't like that the food noise is back. Do I up the survo or up the tirz to get rid of the food cravings? Previous week I lost 5 lbs, this last week I didn't lose any. I have a long way to go.
@Hammertime65 you could up tirz and back off survo. I have read the survo can increase hunger.
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@mhf Blends are not recommended in case of GLP-1s. You can stack separately. It has something to do with individual compound's pH and interactions.
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For those on the ghetto reta, tell me what I should do. I'm playing with 6mg tirz and 2.4 survo. Ever since I started upping the survo my food noise is back and I'm eating more (probably getting close to 2000 cal, I'm 6'3, 308 lbs, was 376 in Jan). I don't like that the food noise is back. Do I up the survo or up the tirz to get rid of the food cravings? Previous week I lost 5 lbs, this last week I didn't lose any. I have a long way to go.
@Hammertime65 It's definitely not your imagination. I started survo last week at 0.6 with tirz 8 to 10. I am ravenous sometimes with a real sweet tooth. Food noise never stops! Very weird. Other than that, I feel no different and still in stall. I'm just going to hold here and see what happens with the survo and not up the dose. I have no itch at all. Someone in post above said magnesium helps eliminate itch and I can vouch for that because of Re-Mag; it's the best around and not cost prohibitive; 1/4 to 1/2 TEAspoon per liter of H2O, take that seriously. I inject Tirz on Thurs and Survo on Friday. I'm worried that if I wait until day 3 or 4 after the Tirz titer drops, then do the Survo, my hunger will get out of control. I'm okay so far. Just waiting to see what happens. Good luck.
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@Hammertime65 It's definitely not your imagination. I started survo last week at 0.6 with tirz 8 to 10. I am ravenous sometimes with a real sweet tooth. Food noise never stops! Very weird. Other than that, I feel no different and still in stall. I'm just going to hold here and see what happens with the survo and not up the dose. I have no itch at all. Someone in post above said magnesium helps eliminate itch and I can vouch for that because of Re-Mag; it's the best around and not cost prohibitive; 1/4 to 1/2 TEAspoon per liter of H2O, take that seriously. I inject Tirz on Thurs and Survo on Friday. I'm worried that if I wait until day 3 or 4 after the Tirz titer drops, then do the Survo, my hunger will get out of control. I'm okay so far. Just waiting to see what happens. Good luck.
@Eleanor @hammertime65 Interesting about food noise. My experience is different.
I've been researching 5mg Tirz + gradually upped Survo to now 1.2mg stack for over a month now. I'm glad that my hunger is back because on 10mg Tirzepatide research I was miserably starving and fatigued. On this stack even though my hunger is back, I can't eat a lot. I get full very quickly.
My weight has moved only a little, but I've decided to not obsess over it, take it easy as I'm not in an obese zone anymore.
Will switch to Reta after these Tirz and Survo vials are done. That will be the first time me jumping on Reta for a serious research after 6 months on tirz.
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@Eleanor @hammertime65 Interesting about food noise. My experience is different.
I've been researching 5mg Tirz + gradually upped Survo to now 1.2mg stack for over a month now. I'm glad that my hunger is back because on 10mg Tirzepatide research I was miserably starving and fatigued. On this stack even though my hunger is back, I can't eat a lot. I get full very quickly.
My weight has moved only a little, but I've decided to not obsess over it, take it easy as I'm not in an obese zone anymore.
Will switch to Reta after these Tirz and Survo vials are done. That will be the first time me jumping on Reta for a serious research after 6 months on tirz.
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@pep_researcher I get full easier too, but I get hungry more often. It's real odd. I didn't feel that way when I was strictly on Tirz.
@Eleanor Oh okay. I somehow have naturally shifted to 2MAD.
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@Eleanor Oh okay. I somehow have naturally shifted to 2MAD.
@pep_researcher I've decided to stop survo or any other glp additions after this bottle is done. I'm doing well just on Tirz; if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
The line up for me will be Tirz 1x wk, NAD+ & Cartalax 1x/day, GLOW every other day. That's it, at least for now. No need to add.
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Perhaps it was my body going through adjustments, but the food noise has calmed down (but not quiet like it was when I started tirz). I went 24 hours before eating yesterday. My calories for the day was less than 1000. I know, that is too low. But it is nice to not be constantly thinking about what I'm going to eat later in the day. Still on 6mg tirz, 2.4mg survo, plus a lot of other peps. Finally down 70 pounds as of today.
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Great job! You got this.
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Perhaps it was my body going through adjustments, but the food noise has calmed down (but not quiet like it was when I started tirz). I went 24 hours before eating yesterday. My calories for the day was less than 1000. I know, that is too low. But it is nice to not be constantly thinking about what I'm going to eat later in the day. Still on 6mg tirz, 2.4mg survo, plus a lot of other peps. Finally down 70 pounds as of today.
@Hammertime65 CONGRATULATIONS on your 70 lbs. down! Great work!
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What if your rat is on 12.5mg Tirz, how would one work survo into this dose? Or should it make an immediate switch to try Reta first?
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@wisgal64 I don't know how @amberlynnek does survo on 12.5. I take just over 1 of survo and it kicks on my Tirz 8mg. I actually gained a couple of pounds at first before weight started dropping again. That glucose release from liver is something else.
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Survodutide vs Mazdutide - what's the reason for choosing one over the other to research?
So I read the first part of this post and understand there a difference between Survo and Maz but most of the replies here have been about Survo and almost nothing on Maz. Is Survo easier to find or is it the one preferred because it's stronger or closer to the "Reta effect"? Is it kind of like a Ford vs Chevy scenario? Or is one truly better than the other?
I just purchased Survo on the recent Aavant drop and I guess I'm just trying to validate choosing it over Maz.
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