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The "ghetto" Reta Stack. Tirz + Survo/Maz

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  • A amberlynnek

    What if your rat is on 12.5mg Tirz, how would one work survo into this dose? Or should it make an immediate switch to try Reta first?

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    @amberlynnek said:

    What if your rat is on 12.5mg Tirz, how would one work survo into this dose? Or should it make an immediate switch to try Reta first?

    Is the Tirz alone working for you?

    “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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      @wisgal64 I don't know how @amberlynnek does survo on 12.5. I take just over 1 of survo and it kicks on my Tirz 8mg. I actually gained a couple of pounds at first before weight started dropping again. That glucose release from liver is something else.

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        Survodutide vs Mazdutide - what's the reason for choosing one over the other to research?

        So I read the first part of this post and understand there a difference between Survo and Maz but most of the replies here have been about Survo and almost nothing on Maz. Is Survo easier to find or is it the one preferred because it's stronger or closer to the "Reta effect"? Is it kind of like a Ford vs Chevy scenario? Or is one truly better than the other?

        I just purchased Survo on the recent Aavant drop and I guess I'm just trying to validate choosing it over Maz.

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          survo has lower glp and higher glucagon binding. than maz.

          "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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            survo has lower glp and higher glucagon binding. than maz.

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            @Randy said:

            survo has lower glp and higher glucagon binding. than maz.

            Ah, then that makes more sense for a combination with Tirz. You get the third agonist with the least amount of glp added.

            Appreciate the response.

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              Wait, from the looks of what I've read, Survo has NO GIP at all. Strictly GLP-1 & Glucagon. Am I wrong here?

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                @eleanor you are correct. The stack of tirz and survo is for hitting both gip and glucagon receptors like Reta. Reta is low on gip, so that’s why some prefer this stack instead of Reta alone.

                Follows research backed science, not “trust me” bro’s.

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                  @eleanor you are correct. The stack of tirz and survo is for hitting both gip and glucagon receptors like Reta. Reta is low on gip, so that’s why some prefer this stack instead of Reta alone.

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                  @MyB said:

                  @eleanor you are correct. The stack of tirz and survo is for hitting both gip and glucagon receptors like Reta. Reta is low on gip, so that’s why some prefer this stack instead of Reta alone.

                  Okay, maybe my misunderstanding. Survo literally does NOT have GIP; it has GLP-1 and glucagon. Reta has all 3; GLP-1, GIP & glucagon. Is this right?

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                    For the record, I decided to give the Tirz/Survo combo more time and glad I did. I am slowly reducing the Tirz (currently 6) and upping NAD+ buf daily because of fatigue; keeping Survo at 1mg. Though scale not dropping yet (been a month or so), I realized the Survo is doing it's work! From med articles, the visceral and liver fat burn shows no difference on the scale until ALL the fat that can be easily washed is gone. My belly has that mushy feeling, as described in med lit., it's a great thing! I am having problems meeting my protein goals and fatigue since starting Tirz is getting better, but still can't exercise like I want. Thank God for NAD+ buf! I am lowering the Tirz by 0.5 weekly and keeping Survo the same to improve fatigue problem. Wish me luck.

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                      For the record, I decided to give the Tirz/Survo combo more time and glad I did. I am slowly reducing the Tirz (currently 6) and upping NAD+ buf daily because of fatigue; keeping Survo at 1mg. Though scale not dropping yet (been a month or so), I realized the Survo is doing it's work! From med articles, the visceral and liver fat burn shows no difference on the scale until ALL the fat that can be easily washed is gone. My belly has that mushy feeling, as described in med lit., it's a great thing! I am having problems meeting my protein goals and fatigue since starting Tirz is getting better, but still can't exercise like I want. Thank God for NAD+ buf! I am lowering the Tirz by 0.5 weekly and keeping Survo the same to improve fatigue problem. Wish me luck.

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                      @Eleanor said:

                      NAD+ buf daily

                      My 2c - the research literature shows that NAD+ precursors like NMN and NR in oral supplement forms are far more efficient in making NAD+ in the body. Subq research with direct NAD+ doesn't do the same thing.

                      See this explanation

                      https://youtu.be/-obfq7K3fAM?is=XfjcGuJE003boB0c

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                        @Eleanor said:

                        NAD+ buf daily

                        My 2c - the research literature shows that NAD+ precursors like NMN and NR in oral supplement forms are far more efficient in making NAD+ in the body. Subq research with direct NAD+ doesn't do the same thing.

                        See this explanation

                        https://youtu.be/-obfq7K3fAM?is=XfjcGuJE003boB0c

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                        @pep_researcher I've seen it, pep; and he's not accounting for those of us like me who've had numerous feet of gut removed. In my case, I assure you, NAD+buf sq works VERY well.

                        Aside from my case, I've argued with Dr. J. about this. People with gut problems to begin with are not really taken into serious consideration by him; celiac, other sensitivities, etc. A person needs a truly healthy gut microbiome for the precursors to be of use and I don't know many people like that anymore.

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                          @pep_researcher I've seen it, pep; and he's not accounting for those of us like me who've had numerous feet of gut removed. In my case, I assure you, NAD+buf sq works VERY well.

                          Aside from my case, I've argued with Dr. J. about this. People with gut problems to begin with are not really taken into serious consideration by him; celiac, other sensitivities, etc. A person needs a truly healthy gut microbiome for the precursors to be of use and I don't know many people like that anymore.

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                          @Eleanor said:

                          who've had numerous feet of gut removed.

                          Oh yes, sorry I forgot you had mentioned this once before too.

                          Yeah then your case is exceptional. Do what's working for you. I will keep it in mind to not push NMN and NR on you in the future. Sorry about that. 🙂

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                            @Eleanor said:

                            who've had numerous feet of gut removed.

                            Oh yes, sorry I forgot you had mentioned this once before too.

                            Yeah then your case is exceptional. Do what's working for you. I will keep it in mind to not push NMN and NR on you in the future. Sorry about that. 🙂

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                            @pep_researcher Ah, it's okay, not a problem, unless I have to keep repeating it to a Dr. or nurse, which has happened. (Can be idiots and scary.) I'd love to be taking oral supps and can't even add up all the $$$$$ I've spent on them, only to no effect. Very disheartening.

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                              survo and maz available on advent today!

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                                Wow! They still have some? When I checked last night those were the only 2 left. I guess its not as popular as some of the others. I'm guessing that most will say "I'll just do reta in place of tirz".

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                                  EZ has Survo

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                                    Flawless has Survo and Maz too.
                                    I've researched the Survo and it's very good.

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                                        Peptidology carries Survodutide as well and I think they are soon going to have Mazdutide too. I think I saw Mazdutide in their newsletter as to be arriving soon.

                                        Peptira carries Survodutide too.

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                                          add 5amino 1mq and Cardarine and you'll torch fat away.

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