The "ghetto" Reta Stack. Tirz + Survo/Maz
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For the record, I decided to give the Tirz/Survo combo more time and glad I did. I am slowly reducing the Tirz (currently 6) and upping NAD+ buf daily because of fatigue; keeping Survo at 1mg. Though scale not dropping yet (been a month or so), I realized the Survo is doing it's work! From med articles, the visceral and liver fat burn shows no difference on the scale until ALL the fat that can be easily washed is gone. My belly has that mushy feeling, as described in med lit., it's a great thing! I am having problems meeting my protein goals and fatigue since starting Tirz is getting better, but still can't exercise like I want. Thank God for NAD+ buf! I am lowering the Tirz by 0.5 weekly and keeping Survo the same to improve fatigue problem. Wish me luck.
NAD+ buf daily
My 2c - the research literature shows that NAD+ precursors like NMN and NR in oral supplement forms are far more efficient in making NAD+ in the body. Subq research with direct NAD+ doesn't do the same thing.
See this explanation
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NAD+ buf daily
My 2c - the research literature shows that NAD+ precursors like NMN and NR in oral supplement forms are far more efficient in making NAD+ in the body. Subq research with direct NAD+ doesn't do the same thing.
See this explanation
@pep_researcher I've seen it, pep; and he's not accounting for those of us like me who've had numerous feet of gut removed. In my case, I assure you, NAD+buf sq works VERY well.
Aside from my case, I've argued with Dr. J. about this. People with gut problems to begin with are not really taken into serious consideration by him; celiac, other sensitivities, etc. A person needs a truly healthy gut microbiome for the precursors to be of use and I don't know many people like that anymore.
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@pep_researcher I've seen it, pep; and he's not accounting for those of us like me who've had numerous feet of gut removed. In my case, I assure you, NAD+buf sq works VERY well.
Aside from my case, I've argued with Dr. J. about this. People with gut problems to begin with are not really taken into serious consideration by him; celiac, other sensitivities, etc. A person needs a truly healthy gut microbiome for the precursors to be of use and I don't know many people like that anymore.
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@pep_researcher Ah, it's okay, not a problem, unless I have to keep repeating it to a Dr. or nurse, which has happened. (Can be idiots and scary.) I'd love to be taking oral supps and can't even add up all the $$$$$ I've spent on them, only to no effect. Very disheartening.
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survo and maz available on advent today!
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Peptidology carries Survodutide as well and I think they are soon going to have Mazdutide too. I think I saw Mazdutide in their newsletter as to be arriving soon.
Peptira carries Survodutide too.
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NAD+ buf daily
My 2c - the research literature shows that NAD+ precursors like NMN and NR in oral supplement forms are far more efficient in making NAD+ in the body. Subq research with direct NAD+ doesn't do the same thing.
See this explanation
@pep_researcher in my testing, simple oral nicotinic acid 500mg leaves behind both NMN and NR.
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Does anyone know when the sugar cravings go away with survo? Very hard to deal with since sweets have always been my weakness. I am 7 weeks in and on 1.8 mg and tirz 7.5 mg.
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Does anyone know when the sugar cravings go away with survo? Very hard to deal with since sweets have always been my weakness. I am 7 weeks in and on 1.8 mg and tirz 7.5 mg.
Does anyone know when the sugar cravings go away with survo? Very hard to deal with since sweets have always been my weakness. I am 7 weeks in and on 1.8 mg and tirz 7.5 mg.
I started Survo 3 weeks ago and cravings for sugar just starting to subside. Might want to consider backing down the dose a bit. While there is a protocol that you're in line with, if sugar is a big thing for you (and is for me too), you're getting a heafy glucose release from the liver that can be very obnoxious. It could be weeks or even months before it stops. Depends on the glucagon hit. I backed down to 1 or 1.25 and it helped quite a bit. (I love dark chocolate, lemon, maple, coconut... pretty much ALL of it!) Don't be in a hurry with the Survo.
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Thanks. I will bring it back down on Saturday.
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@americanchild Forgot to ask you if you're taking Suvo and Tirz at same time? Not a good idea.
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@americanchild Forgot to ask you if you're taking Suvo and Tirz at same time? Not a good idea.
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@americanchild Forgot to ask you if you're taking Suvo and Tirz at same time? Not a good idea.
Meaning you should take them 3 days apart right? Not at the same time/day?
@Nuncles I take my Survo 1st and 24 to 36 hrs. later I take the Tirz. Learned this the hard way. When Survo peaks, it has the Tirz rising to peak to cover some of those cravings. This way, you might only have to endure cravings a short amount of time, 12 to 18 hrs. Don't do Tirz first.
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Does anyone know when the sugar cravings go away with survo? Very hard to deal with since sweets have always been my weakness. I am 7 weeks in and on 1.8 mg and tirz 7.5 mg.
I started Survo 3 weeks ago and cravings for sugar just starting to subside. Might want to consider backing down the dose a bit. While there is a protocol that you're in line with, if sugar is a big thing for you (and is for me too), you're getting a heafy glucose release from the liver that can be very obnoxious. It could be weeks or even months before it stops. Depends on the glucagon hit. I backed down to 1 or 1.25 and it helped quite a bit. (I love dark chocolate, lemon, maple, coconut... pretty much ALL of it!) Don't be in a hurry with the Survo.
@Eleanor When did you start experiencing the sugar cravings with Survo? Luckily I haven’t experienced that yet, but I’m still on a pretty low dose of Survo at the moment. Was at 500mcg, but I just bumped it up to 750mcg after 4 weeks. I’ve never been that much of a sweets person so I’m just curious if those cravings come at a higher dose. But so far, I’m really loving the Survo with my Tirz. I just titrated up to 3mg of Tirz every six days then I take the Survo three days after my Tirz with no issues.
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@Eleanor When did you start experiencing the sugar cravings with Survo? Luckily I haven’t experienced that yet, but I’m still on a pretty low dose of Survo at the moment. Was at 500mcg, but I just bumped it up to 750mcg after 4 weeks. I’ve never been that much of a sweets person so I’m just curious if those cravings come at a higher dose. But so far, I’m really loving the Survo with my Tirz. I just titrated up to 3mg of Tirz every six days then I take the Survo three days after my Tirz with no issues.
@mrjoshua44 Nope, low dose and cravings fairly immediate. Never higher than 1.5mg. If you don't have a sugar cravings problem then I'm really happy for you bc they can be vicious!
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