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@kristophermatyas Just off a 5 day run. Dosed over that time 10mg BPC157, 20mg TB500, 20mg KPV, and 10mg GHK-cu. So a total of 60mg in 5 days. Haven't noticed any difference. This stuff isn't coke, meth or heroin, that is why there is no heavy enforcement. I have almost come to the conclusion, if its not patented, it doesn't work.

Vendors can do all sorts of shenanigans, intentional or unintentional, with inventory, labels and, yes, COA's as there is no 3rd party inspector with enforcement authority. Unless they turn their batch inventory over to a third party for segregation, testing and fulfillment, you are trusting that the vials you got came from the same batch they tested. Labels, QR codes and COA's don't prove that. I would just contact them and see if they will resolve to your liking.

@StudzPeptides He is fairly active on Twitter. He is not the cheapest, priced along the lines of peptide test and janoshik.

@StudzPeptides Vanguard, TrustPointe and BT Labs. As far as vendors seem to like labs who can get their (non-prescribed sterile vials for injection) back to them quickly.

@charlescoyle AA made it worse. I just used 3ml of bac water at room temperature was the trick for a 5mg Instant Peptides vial. Keep in mind AOD is a fat mobilizer not a burner. Works best in a fasted state at high doses before a workout, which begs the question, why not use HGH before a workout.

@blueskies27 Consider Ipamorelin PM before bed, HGH in a fasted state in AM (before a workout is ideal), for muscle (male or female, although wildly different dosing) testosterone or its metabolites.

@remwar probably

Its possible, but I suspect Lilly picked the perfect candidates, as the candidates they select are not just rando. On the other hand, I suspect many RUO peptides do lack potency, because of sequencing, folding, hidden tfa and residual salts, water. I have had mixed responses on this when asking the labs on K-Hole. Some say net peptide content (NPC) is the actual potency while others say make sure the NPC number you get back from a lab account for residual tfa, residual solvents, free tfa, salts and water content.

@Stevepep In an inventory business with pressured margins, without a LOC/debt, all sales have to be poured back into inventory for a long while, particularly in a biz as saturated as the peptide vendor market. "It is a long way to the top, if you wanna rock n roll"

The original researchers on Slu 332 said it has horrible bioavailability orally, so take that for what it is worth (and yes it is worth more than the influencers and "bowtied" opinions) . Slu915 was designed for oral bioavailability per the creators, so there is that. Various solutions can be used SQ for Slu332, 90%oil/10%dmso or 10%dmso/40% PEG300/5% Tween-80/45% saline. not an easy mix like just grabbing some BAC water hence ruo trying to make it oral (I suspect) plus vendors have something to sell.

Eleanor Yea he is going to look out and see the DEA rollin. HGH appears to be the purview of the DEA vs the FDA?

@sternmd To a point, he spent a lot of time posting in SM about human use. We don't need that from vendors.

@pep_researcher the advantage of stateside freeze/drying (lypho) is it allows for better quality control assuming you start with good raw api, but its an art form as each peptide has its own characteristics of sublimation. 2ndly, endo's can be introduced at any stage of production upto sealing the vial and good practice requires having the raw tested just like a vial before starting the process. So the fill finisher should know what the quality is before production and the API may be used in multiple batches when it is bought in the KG sizes. Also, I believe Nexaph is a stateside fill finisher per K-Hole.

They have been in business for a whole year, so they are experts you know.

@jackiee Agree, this happens about every 6-12 months in one form or fashion. I know it will be used to market like crazy by the vendors (get it while you can sales).

@motiefs yes they have the standard, its formula, weight, structure etc. that is public information and is how labs even identify various peptides. I think what needs to be expanded on by the labs is what do they mean by purity and net peptide content (npc). Purity, in case off Reta to me, means what % is undamaged Reta that meets the scientific standard published, while npc means all the Reta in various stages of degradation, such that if you know purity and npc, one can determine potency (the good stuff). purity% X npc = potency assay.

@Eleanor He is openly selling HGH now and thinking calling it Prime 191 will outsmart the AI and the FDA, I guess. He needs to be careful as a USA Texas based vendor. 2nd question is why? Margins on everything else slipping?

Getting what they deserve. Put my little order in the back of the line, to take care of a popular vendor 'expert'.

its the positive charge that filters the endotoxins, how high a level not sure yet. But they are specifically designed for filtering endotoxins