Any fans of Josh Holyfield and his ZestyRat brand?
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I’ve never seen a website so adamantly confident to a point of detriment, or even sounds like a dick. If this is your go to, welp sorry that just my .02cents. How confident to to say take our word that we have high quality stuff, we don’t publish our docs and blind trust because our founder has 22 years of integrity and we stand by our website of overpriced stuff. That’s right up there with that chiro black card who lost his license in California
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@cwelsh, I think he does a decent job educating people on peptides by YouTube influencer standards. So far the best I’ve seen information I’ve seen on YouTube is from a guy named Jeff and his pet rat @randy. The dude never shows his face but I think he might be Chinese Jeff Wang possible, :). But my only gripe with Josh is I posted a link to a study another member asked about and 3 people told me I couldn’t do that, which I was ok with it’s not my group, and then I got a DM from Josh himself saying if I posted a link again I would be banned. Btw, I posted a he same link here with no negative feedback. Needless to say I just removed my self from the group after that. I will say I can’t stand that fake doctor Trevor something idk how valid his information is because of all the bragging he does, and tangents he goes off on. Sorry I’ll force myself to stop there.
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I Am. For transparency I am a member of his community. I believe his videos are some of the most informative out there. I believe his prices are in line with most other vendors. He does offer bundle discount As for the COA’s, he previously made a video about this. His point was that making the COAs available is bringing heat down on the industry. Just like what’s going on right now.
And he does make it clear when you join which is for free by the way that he does not want any links to any outside sources whatsoever. There are a lot of guys that do ask for recommendations. I would think the best thing you would do is just DM them. -
@mfadden99, I agree with everything you said except it being clear that there was to be no outside links. When I read the rules it said to include any outside links that would be considered competition, and to not spam, farm or otherwise proposition group members in an attempt to sell them anything. The link was research and was in response to a linked posted by another member. Either way it doesn’t matter, it’s his community and he can run it however he wants, again I think his content is good, he seems extremely knowledgeable and can explain and breakdown peptides well. At the end of the day it just wasn’t a good fit for me.
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No COAs because it is bringing heat down… ya that doesn’t sound legit to me. Especially when 75% of vendors out here have COAs.
So is his reasoning “if I just sell the stuff and don’t show it is real I am ok”
Even if you attempt to sell fake coke it is still a crime. So his reasoning makes ZERO sense. In fact that draws more red flags for me. But everyone has to trust who they want.
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Josh usually give's well informed science based information and he presents technical information in a way that most non science people can understand. I can't really think of anyone on par with him that I have seen speak publicly on YouTube. He is most definitely not in the same class as the Black Card Ex-Chiropractor.
I saw the video where he talked about not asking for CofA's in the name of bringing down the heat on the industry. I understand why he was pushing that message but as a consumer, I obviously want CofA's. I really don't think he is doing to so he can sell shady research peps....that being said, I would probably consider changing the name..lol! I am also part of his Skool group and I have messaged him personally and he has given direct advice at no cost. Not a huge fan of the Christian Fundamentalist vibe in his group, but that is easy enough to ignore.
I also like Chris Duffin on YouTub. Honorable mention to Alex Kikel (TPC) but he is guilty of talking over most peoples heads.
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I’ve never seen a website so adamantly confident to a point of detriment, or even sounds like a dick. If this is your go to, welp sorry that just my .02cents. How confident to to say take our word that we have high quality stuff, we don’t publish our docs and blind trust because our founder has 22 years of integrity and we stand by our website of overpriced stuff. That’s right up there with that chiro black card who lost his license in California
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@jborja I can find no tests on any of their products. Id steer clear.
As far as his content there's a lot of AI slop mixed into whatever he is reading...but at least he isn't running around calling himself a doctor and cheating in the crossfit games
