Bacteriostatic Water

pep_researcher

@pep_researcher Got it. Great graph! Thanks!

I meant read the explanation I posted with it too.

Eleanor

jackiee

I agree about being wary of using it after 30 days. It will probably still be good, but you may be using that in a peptide that will stay in your fridge for 6-8 weeks. So, that BAC water could be 90 days old. Even with the price increase, it's not enough to risk getting a problem from.

Eleanor

@jackiewatson I didn't think about that aspect. Will have to readjust my idea. Thanks jackie.

pep_researcher

@gym.rat said in Bacteriostatic Water:

@pep_researcher Cliffy enough for me. BAC is so cheap why even risk it? To each their own I suppose.

Of course. The discussion is more for when availability trumps protocols. If I have abundant H BAC I wouldn't care such deep dives. Currently it's on shortage and out of stock at almost all places.

Eleanor

How long does BAC last without the alcohol? 30 days, max? No attempting to stretch it?

pep_researcher

@Eleanor BAC without benzyl alcohol is just sterile water, which doesn't automatically go bad. That's pond water! lol.

Even sterile water needs actual microbial contact to spoil. BAC just slows that process down compared to plain sterile water.

Bottom line: neither goes bad on its own, contamination has to happen first.

pep_researcher

@Eleanor FWIW all these 30, 60, 90 whatever days norms are assuming imperfect human handling which may introduce microbes and it's basically risk minimization protocols assuming human errors.

If someone is confident of their asceptic handling techniques, they can use BAC or sterile water till the last drop in the vial.

robertwalker

Let's take this a step further... Sterile water...Isn't it the same as distilled water?
Couldn't we just take water processed through a reverse osmosis system and then distill (using a glass still) it into a glass bottle that has been boiled for a given amount of time. Maintain near boiling temperature of the water from the still and seal while at temperature. After cooling process with the proper mix of Benzyl Alcohol,

pep_researcher

@robertwalker Theoretically correct but AFAIK I think distillation is a step before sterilization. Typically sterile water comes with guaranteed low endotoxin levels.

Randy

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Randy

@robertwalker https://youtu.be/pp_AgdDYQmQ?si=CocFDVk-5x3ruv7_

I hope this doesn't turn into an episode of breaking bad but... Making bacwater isn't hard.

pep_researcher

@Randy ROTFL. Open containers, no masks, no gloves, no clean room... awesome! I'm now confident I can make BAC at home because my asceptic protocols are a lot stricter and I will start with certified sterile water.

robertwalker

@Randy Thanks for the video link.
I'd do things a bit different to lower the possibility of contamination. I did like the fact that the youtuber mentioned use of a pressure cooker. That can be used as an autoclave to sterilize bottles and the distillation equipment. As for those that sight the sterility of the environment that is why you should close loop the still with stopper and a single small pressure relief. (close out the environment as much as possible) Further many people already own HEPA air filters and Ion generator air purifiers. A small closet or grow tent could be set up with a table, seat and filters equipped as a lab. It would be very close to lab sterile and could produce large quantities of perfectly good BAC within hours, the only difference would be testing the purity.

Randy

@pep_researcher i make mine in a bathtub

Commander

On Mexex website it says 3 to 4 weeks lead time for Hospira. I think they are leaving that up to drive demand. I ordered Thursday and it was delivered Saturday. I do live in the same state about 45 minutes from them.. But still it was shipped the day after I ordered it.

Randy

@Commander thats good info. what was the expiration?

Sable Darqness

I must say all this pond water talk is quite intreiging, I have never had any advercr effects using my bac water from several different vendors, even after weeks after being first pierced. maybe i have a strong constitution idk please post if bac water has made you sick.

Eleanor

Since Glacier has COA for their water, I have to wonder why it's being ignored?

pep_researcher

@Commander FWIW I saw that notice on Medex page a couple of months ago too when there wasn't any shortage. That's a standard notice plastered on their BAC water page.