Bacteriostatic Water
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@statieeight It’s way outside my wheelhouse, but my uncle was in the hospital for several months after a fall last winter. If you want to suffer sticker shock, watch how much gear the ICU nurses burn through in 5-10 minutes while administering morning meds to a patient.
They followed all the right processes, but man, do they throw away a lot of gear. They never use the same syringe to push meds twice.
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Also, (sorry, still can’t edit posts on my ipad) wrt Europe and safety, I keep reading all these shock scare stories about ‘not FDA approved, unsafe’ peptides from China, and I am not suggesting people don’t practice proper care and due diligence, but I am not seeing any stories about people dying from peptides.
Given how opposed to peptides the medical industrial complex is, and how in bed with them the FDA is, you’d think that every available story to that effect would be front page news. Instead, the Wall Street Journal is running front page looksmaxxing stories and their readers are clutching pearls over ripped twinks.
Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude
If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.
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Also, (sorry, still can’t edit posts on my ipad) wrt Europe and safety, I keep reading all these shock scare stories about ‘not FDA approved, unsafe’ peptides from China, and I am not suggesting people don’t practice proper care and due diligence, but I am not seeing any stories about people dying from peptides.
Given how opposed to peptides the medical industrial complex is, and how in bed with them the FDA is, you’d think that every available story to that effect would be front page news. Instead, the Wall Street Journal is running front page looksmaxxing stories and their readers are clutching pearls over ripped twinks.
@ResearchCat said in Bacteriostatic Water:
Also, (sorry, still can’t edit posts on my ipad) wrt Europe and safety, I keep reading all these shock scare stories about ‘not FDA approved, unsafe’ peptides from China, and I am not suggesting people don’t practice proper care and due diligence, but I am not seeing any stories about people dying from peptides.
Given how opposed to peptides the medical industrial complex is, and how in bed with them the FDA is, you’d think that every available story to that effect would be front page news. Instead, the Wall Street Journal is running front page looksmaxxing stories and their readers are clutching pearls over ripped twinks.
They only cherry pick extreme cases and run clickbaits with them all over the social media. But if it's about finding cat hair in Novo's Wegovy pens, IN THE SUPPLY CHAIN, it's all hushed up.
Freaking Demon Agents or Freaking Double Agents
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I have no problem with Rosie using bac past 30 days, but I'm confused a bit. Bac "should be stored in a cool, dry place" BEFORE opening, yes? After puncture, doesn't it go in the fridge? Same as Tesmorelin? I can't possibly use 30ml in 30 days; would like to push it out 60-90 days. Suggestions? (I'm still reading all the posts here. Be patient with my newbieness.)
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I have no problem with Rosie using bac past 30 days, but I'm confused a bit. Bac "should be stored in a cool, dry place" BEFORE opening, yes? After puncture, doesn't it go in the fridge? Same as Tesmorelin? I can't possibly use 30ml in 30 days; would like to push it out 60-90 days. Suggestions? (I'm still reading all the posts here. Be patient with my newbieness.)
@Eleanor I believe unrefridgerated up to 90 days while using. Exp. date on bottle if unopened.
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@gym.rat said in Bacteriostatic Water:
@Eleanor Once I puncture it, goes in the fridge and covered in foil. I date it as well. Once it hits 30 days whatever I haven't used gets tossed in the trash. Some peps can take me 60 days to get through and around that 90 day mark BAC water falls off a cliff. So 30 days is my rule. No exceptions.
Cliff is not exactly a cliff. See this
https://community.peptidecritic.com/post/6039 -
@Eleanor I believe unrefridgerated up to 90 days while using. Exp. date on bottle if unopened.
@Hammertime65 Thanks Hammer. I've got some research to do, as you can see, I'm getting a variety of answers. It's not that I expect 1, definitive answer, but you understand my concern. Still haven't finished reading all the posts in this thread. What I have read varies widely.
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@gym.rat said in Bacteriostatic Water:
@Eleanor Once I puncture it, goes in the fridge and covered in foil. I date it as well. Once it hits 30 days whatever I haven't used gets tossed in the trash. Some peps can take me 60 days to get through and around that 90 day mark BAC water falls off a cliff. So 30 days is my rule. No exceptions.
Cliff is not exactly a cliff. See this
https://community.peptidecritic.com/post/6039 -
@pep_researcher Got it. Great graph! Thanks!
@Eleanor said in Bacteriostatic Water:
@pep_researcher Got it. Great graph! Thanks!
I meant read the explanation I posted with it too.
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@Eleanor said in Bacteriostatic Water:
@pep_researcher Got it. Great graph! Thanks!
I meant read the explanation I posted with it too.
@pep_researcher I read it, pep.
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I agree about being wary of using it after 30 days. It will probably still be good, but you may be using that in a peptide that will stay in your fridge for 6-8 weeks. So, that BAC water could be 90 days old. Even with the price increase, it's not enough to risk getting a problem from.
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I agree about being wary of using it after 30 days. It will probably still be good, but you may be using that in a peptide that will stay in your fridge for 6-8 weeks. So, that BAC water could be 90 days old. Even with the price increase, it's not enough to risk getting a problem from.
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@gym.rat said in Bacteriostatic Water:
@pep_researcher Cliffy enough for me. BAC is so cheap why even risk it? To each their own I suppose.
Of course. The discussion is more for when availability trumps protocols. If I have abundant H BAC I wouldn't care such deep dives. Currently it's on shortage and out of stock at almost all places.
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@Eleanor BAC without benzyl alcohol is just sterile water, which doesn't automatically go bad. That's pond water! lol.
Even sterile water needs actual microbial contact to spoil. BAC just slows that process down compared to plain sterile water.
Bottom line: neither goes bad on its own, contamination has to happen first.
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@Eleanor FWIW all these 30, 60, 90 whatever days norms are assuming imperfect human handling which may introduce microbes and it's basically risk minimization protocols assuming human errors.
If someone is confident of their asceptic handling techniques, they can use BAC or sterile water till the last drop in the vial.
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Let's take this a step further... Sterile water...Isn't it the same as distilled water?
Couldn't we just take water processed through a reverse osmosis system and then distill (using a glass still) it into a glass bottle that has been boiled for a given amount of time. Maintain near boiling temperature of the water from the still and seal while at temperature. After cooling process with the proper mix of Benzyl Alcohol, -
Let's take this a step further... Sterile water...Isn't it the same as distilled water?
Couldn't we just take water processed through a reverse osmosis system and then distill (using a glass still) it into a glass bottle that has been boiled for a given amount of time. Maintain near boiling temperature of the water from the still and seal while at temperature. After cooling process with the proper mix of Benzyl Alcohol,@robertwalker Theoretically correct but AFAIK I think distillation is a step before sterilization. Typically sterile water comes with guaranteed low endotoxin levels.
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I agree about being wary of using it after 30 days. It will probably still be good, but you may be using that in a peptide that will stay in your fridge for 6-8 weeks. So, that BAC water could be 90 days old. Even with the price increase, it's not enough to risk getting a problem from.
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