@Stones67 said:

swisschems.is

Stones send me your referral link to Swisschem please.

@Stones67 said:

@denti
Bet you're not surprised at this point. E2 was negatively affected as well. I'm confident that what you got was not enclomiphene (or clomid for that matter) and whatever it was messed with your pituitary. So you need a win my friend. Honestly, if you haven't already, I'd suggest starting at the beginning of this thread and read through how it evolved over time. The reason I sent 3 samples to Vanguard was to answer the question/concern about whether sources were just sending Clomid and asked them specifically to quantify the Zuclomiphene isomer (not desired). The great Randy himself gave me the idea. Fortunately, (and with a $250 per sample price tag!) all good with those 3. I hear Kimera may now make you jump through some hoops to register. My account was apparently grandfathered in. (FYI- Empower is a compounding pharmacy and you need a script). Sooo...I'd suggest Swiss Chems. $80 for 12.5mg, 60 caps. Latest batch looks good according to Freedom (not a favorite in this forum cuz 'reasons', but what are you gonna do).

Stones since you’re knowledgeable about all this, can you explain all my results to me. Why were my lab work from July better than last weeks results? All I know is that my T went down but don’t really know what all the other ones actually mean.

@stones67 E2 result came in. July it was 23 last week it was 19

@bfuller said:

You can try this website, they have a USA only warehouse now. I use the Canadian warehouse and can't see the US site becasue of my IP address so not sure if they offer the same products. Janoshik tested and the enclomiphene sells out often. I am going for more labs soon I have been using the enclomiphene for 50 days now so i will have objective markers soon on 12.5 mgs for 6 weeks. below is the initial 2.5 weeks at 6.25 mgs and the markers moved in the right direction but i increased to 12.5 becasue testosterone wasn't very significant.

Two weeks in Labs on only 6.25 mgs my FSH went from - 3.6 to 4.0 LH from - 4.1 to 5.3 SHBG 24 to 28

Testsosterone trough was up into low normal from low abnormal but I was comparing a random draw to fasted so my next draw will be a better indicator for testosterone movement. apples to apples.

No enclomiphene available (not even sold out, just not even listed) on the US site

@Stones67 said:

MK-677

Very well possible.

Are you saying that the Swisschem and Kimera enclo you had tested was the good one and one you would recommend me to buy and take?

@Stones67 said:

Yikes...So. There are some clues here. Look at your LH/ FSH. Both DECREASED- the opposite of what enclomiphene should have produced, SHBG crashed as well. This strongly suggests enclomiphene was NOT what you took. This plus the side effects you mentioned imply you were actually exposed to an oral AAS or possibly a SARM. Run your scenario through your favorite clanker. I think it will agree. The only way to know would be to test it but clearly I wouldn't take any more of it!

This is the COA
https://modifiedaminos.shop/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/Enclomiphene-Lot-MA-ENC-101-IE55.pdf

But I will trash the remaining bottles per your advice. Is there anyone actually selling a legitimate version of Enclo? I would like to raise my T levels without going to TRT

@Stones67 said:

@denti
Its possible. Could have been clomid. Could have been nothing at all. Same rules apply here as peptides. See my COA postings Aug 29 comparing Swiss Chems, Kimera, and Empower and the absence of the zuclomiphene isomer from those sources. Also, almost a week between discontinuation of enclo and lab testing is definitely a stretch. Early AM blood draw? How about free T, E2, SHBG, FSH, LH before and after?

Was 9:15am draw

Here are the before and after (July)/Nov)

total T: 513/483
Free T: 73.6/79.8
E2: waiting on results
SHBG: 41/32
FSH: 5.3/4.7
LH: 7.7/4.4

I’d appreciate your opinion on what you think with the numbers posted.

I really thought it was working as I was having some of the side effects like irritability, hot flashes type of feeling, ravenous hunger. I thought I would be at 700+. I’m so confused why it dropped.

Alright give me your secret or not having any micro bubbles in your 3ml carts. No matter what I do I always end up with some bubbles.

Nice. I was wondering if you would be able to see any cloudiness or gelling in the amber vials like you could with the clear ones. It looks like you can. I just ordered 120 regular vials from the store, now I regret not adding some amber for when I get back on NAD.

I ran ARA-290 from Peptidology using just Hospira Bac water. Never had an issue. I can highly recommend them.

Well this is a bit surprising. My total T was 513 mid July. I then started Enclomiphene Sept 12th taking 12.5mg 3x a week. I took my last dose Oct 31. I had my lab work done 6days later on Nov 6th and just got my results back. My total T dropped to 483.

I for sure thought it would have gone up using Enclomiphene for 6 weeks. Not sure what to think now. Was I taking just bunk pills even though it has a COA.

Alchemygoldresearch.com is a SCAM and UNSAFE site. Selling the following peptides without any COA

1. Semax
2. Melanotan 2
3. Selank
4. SS-31
5. Epitalon
6. DSIP
7. PT-141
8. HCG
9. Tesamorelin

And they DO NOT even test for Endotoxins or Sterility. Joke of a vendor. Get lost.

@AGResearch said:

Blends are NO BUENO. You mess with chemistry. For example, for the healing stack of bpc, tb 500 and kpv, you mix that and you are not getting correct amounts of tb500, bpc and kpv. You are only supposed to do 10 units of tb500 every 5 days and kpv and bpc daily 10. I like Dr T for info because he explains the biology and physiology. https://www.instagram.com/p/DTbuOd9ER2b/

www.alchemygoldresearch.com

You literally have no idea what you are talking about. You are so uninformed. Spend time researching here where we are actually informed users. The fact that you talk about injecting in UNITS and not mg is laughable at best.

Actually I take it back. You are selling products without any COA. You should get a red banner.

@randy have fun.

@tracyhenderson said:

@Stevepep That is just tragic. I started with my business partner who is a trainer who spent a year sourcing peppers. We now own a company and TEST every single batch. I just threw away the 5 amino because it didnt test out. Check us out. www.alchemygoldresearch.com Welcome40 because you had such a shitty previous experience! Tracy

I will give you credit for using Janoshik as your lab. But I'm going to downvote you for hijacking a thread and trying to spam your site.

@Randy I've been titrating up weekly hoping to feel anything. Started at 1mg for 2 weeks. Then 2mg third week, and 3mg last week which was my fourth week on it.

I really think its either the Enclomiphene or the FLGR-242 I was on that makes me ravenous. I have stopped both of those as of last week. Will try 3mg Elora again next week and see if I notice any difference in hunger and food noise before going up to 4mg.

@justinlaughlin Hey bud you better do some more research. There is a reason why everything comes back 99.5%+ purity from Freedom. Informed consumers are moving away from retailers that use Freedom.

@Randy said:

@davidbrown I made the switch the opposite way. What i can tell you as a cagri disciple...elora slaps.

Its the beezkneez. It rocks my world.

0.5 elora is a LOW dose. Start at a standard titration on cag and work your way up on the rats protocol.

Unfortunately not slapping here and now at 3mg of Elora. Wish it could slap for me like it does for you.

I have 6 Gansulin and 2 Convi. I believe commander saying they are identical as he’s cut them apart. In my small sample size of using these pens daily for 6 months now, some of my Gansulin stick but my Convi surprisingly have been smooth. All are kept in the fridge and I use 31g 6mm pen needles. Maybe it’s possible that there maybe a quality consistency across different batches?

@Blueeyedme said:

@Stevepep - thanks, I have a few Gansulins and a few Novo 4's. I'll grab the new battery one that's floating around...I think Jeff has been testing one here, Daro and Riptide have been testing as well....meh..something fun and new.

Link to this new pen? Im interested.