Peptide Critic Community

@Randy

I purchase a kit that has same cap and crimp that has not been tested for endotoxins. I actually do not want to use this kit anymore incase it’s part of this same batch. I can send it to you if you would like to have it tested.

@Stevepep said:

People, let's wait and see. How many times have we seen this in the last two years? It's always been a ploy to get people to order like mad. Send an email "order now because the price is going to double". Look at peptide test after the big 60Pct price hike email. Still the same price over a month later, and no order restrictions, no sell-outs per day.

The sad part is it works and gets people in a frenzy, so they go back to it over and over and move a bunch of inventory when sales slow down.

Exactly. I will never purchase from Peptidetest again. And I used to buy all my BAC water, needles, syringes from them. They went from having $11 bottles available all day to then saying there is a shortage and doing daily drops of 600 bottles so you should buy now at $15 a bottle and limiting you, to now having as many as you want 400 vial boxes available and a new single vial price of $16.50 a bottle. All in the span of what 2-3 months? I don't believe there is an actual shortage. But they and others were able to create a temporary artificial supply issue and were able to move the avg price up across the market.

I’m glad to see that you should be getting a refund. Still not impressed that you had to even go public with this. Too many other vendors available to shop from so Flawless lost my business. Mistaken closed ticket or not. Even the owners email reply weeks later offering store credit is ridiculous after this much time has passed. Just refund and be done with it. It’s not like he was refunding all 3000 vials that were purchased according to him.

Please name the vendor. It so ridiculous to me that some of these vendors don't want to keep a customer happy. As we all know their margins are incredible on single vial peptides. They replace the vial and keep you happy and ordering from them in the future. They don't and consumers like me will add them to our do not buy from list. So please name the vendor.

To put it in perspective though mine was a slightly different issue, I had purchased about I believe 24vials of AOD 9604 from Instant Peptides. 3 straight vials gelled using Hospira Bac water and their own Acetic Acid. Contacted Chris the owner and he sent replacement AOD 9604 and AA to try out. The new vials reconstituted fine and I figured out the issue was actually their AA. Just using Hospira alone without AA reconned fine. Because Chris did the correct thing to keep me happy, by sending out new vials to try, he kept me as a customer even though I can find cheaper prices elsewhere. And I buy in bulk. Some of these vendors are penny wise and pound foolish.

@pep_researcher said:

@denti Their latest shipment has Nov 2027 expiration. Just got for a friend last week. But yeah they are using their old inventory at a higher price.

I would respect them more if they just went about it in an honest way and said the market is charging more so we are going to raise our prices as well. Instead of this limited inventory nonsense and then raising the prices. I’m sure they are sitting on hundreds of thousands of bottles as they appear to be shipping the same inventory from earlier this year.

@Stevepep said:

Trying to figure out how this is a deal on the presale; it's less on Nexaph without the presale after the 25% discount. I just bought a 24mg, 10-pack for $396; $1.65 a MG this is $1.80. This Crush stuff is maddening to me, and I have ordered 3 times from them. I almost fell for it again.

Steve I also primarily order from Nexaph and have about 10 years worth of Reta stocked up from all their presales this year. May never need it as I’m already under my goal weight now. But I would like to titrate down and microdose for the time being and these 10mg vials from few weeks ago that Crush had a presale on and this 15mg presale seem like a good deal for me to use for the time being. And I don’t want to take the bigger mg Nexaph vials out of the freezer so I purchased these.

And I have some friends and family that I just got them started on Reta few weeks ago at 1mg and 2mg and I hate wasting 24 and 30mg vials on them when I discard after 4 weeks no matter what. So these will also work for them their first couple of months with less waste. And I do like they do endo and sterility testing. I know Nexaph is starting to also and once they have it for everything they sell I probably will not purchase from any other vendor as they have the best pricing out there besides going completely grey.

@erichulburt said:

Yes, I was a little surprised they wouldn't send a replacement for a $35 vial... I mean I am seeing posts from vetted grey market vendors issuing credits/replacements for the entire kit for similar issues. Still no change in the solution, not risking my rat for this.
Vendor SouthernAminos, I included a screen shot of their policy so no one has to create an account to view it. No issues with them till this, first time I had to deal with customer service, which is what other negative reviews also mentioned. Researchers be aware of their policy. I don't think an issue with the batch is the problem. Product ships from the same fulfillment address as other vendors and no issues with those ones either. Just customer no-service...

Thank you for naming them. They are already on my do not buy list as I had an issue with them with AOD-9604. If you look up my posts you can see a thread I started about them. They did offer for me too ship it back (at my own expense for a refund) but it was not worth the hassle for me to do so. I simply don't trust them.

Market is saturated with so many vendors, that we can pick and choose who we want to buy from. I imagine with their policy they have lost a customer in you.

Why do you not think it's an issue with the batch? I think that's exactly what the issue is. They sent me two different batches of AOD 9604 but used the same batch # on the bottle. That does not seem right to me and actually concerning. But on their bottles they label the avg mg in each vial. So same batch # but different avg mg?? As you can see in the picture below, the vial on the left looks old and faded compared to the vial on the right. The vial on the right matches the COA while the vial on the left does not match the COA in regards to mass and purity. I discarded 10 vials of the older looking AOD from them



Their pricing is good. But yes just need a known lab and they will get my business.

@ResearchCat said:

Over and over and over again, doctors and influencers will tell you that proper sleep, diet, and lifting heavy things are the best thing you can do for hormonal balance and overall well-being. There are even arguments to be made that all this peptide nonsense is just driving you to get better sleep and eat better, which leads to the results you want.

TL;DR - and no, I am not your real dad ( ), but if you know your test is tanking because of lifestyle issues, try to solve that organically before you spend a ton of money on peps and other stuff.

I was talking to a urologist yesterday and they were saying a large swing(drop) in T levels from one test to another could be just due to short term stuff and doesn’t necessarily warrant TRT.

Sorry I am rambling. Seth Capehart made a video recently that basically says what I said above, and what @diegoc is saying. Do lift, eat, and sleep for 6 months and if you don’t feel great and have good labs, then dive down the rabbit hole.

You're right but unfortunately I do not have the willpower to leave a toxic situation that is slowly killing me, yet I have the willpower to strap on 40lbs and run and not stop. Wish I had that determination and fortitude in my relationship.

@StudzPeptides said:

@Randy We planned on moving over to Freedom, you guys prefer AFI and Vanguard to Freedom?

If you do that you will get some of my business. I like your prices.

@Stevepep said:

@Snake-Pepskin what an amazing business 600 a day at a 100pct mark up. They are clearing well over a million a year, close to a 1.5. And it’s so easy you create scarcity or the fear of it and people pay up and hoard. The question is when does the bubble burst. They are all doing it with the marketing "drops" etc. At some point the demand will decrease as people sit on years of product. Who knows maybe not

I believe they are shipping inventory they have always had with this “drop” marketing while raising the price. I used to order Hospira BAC water months ago from them at $11 a bottle and would receive Aug 31,2027 expiration. I placed an order with them last week under this “drop” at $15 a bottle and still recieved Aug 31 2027 expiration bottles. While I also placed orders at other vendors and received Nov 2027 lots. And above in this thread someone posted a picture of Feb 2028 expiration lot. So I believe at least Peptide Test has been sitting on this same inventory from earlier this year when I used to buy from them and has created this artificial shortage on their own inventory and raised their prices from $11 to $15 by doing this 600 bottle drop a day.

Same here. Can you give us your workflow of getting every air bubble out? I also have OCD tendencies like you, but still can't get them all out before I put them into my pens.

Anyone else trying to get the coupon code they sent in the email today "CRUSHMAIL" to work with this presale? Seems to delete the discount at checkout for me.

@Stevepep

I figured the Nexaph crypto sale was to clear out their old inventory as they moved to new inventory that has full panel testing.

@afkar7 said:

BTW, is anyone researching their AOD-9604 with a pen? Seems to be a little thicker and was wondering how well it works with the pens.

Thanks

I’ve been using it in a Gansulin pen with 31g needles. Never an issue. In fact I think it’s better in a pen vs a vial as you prevent air from getting into it which I believe AOD hates.

Thank you for this post and their response. I like to buy in bulk and placed one order with them. I will no longer use them as they don't seem to want to take accountability and care about customer satisfaction. I find it amazing as we know their margins are huge on these peptides and a simple replacement would be minimal for them.

I had issues with some AOD 9604 from Instant Peptides and the owner Chris shipped me some replacements to test out. And it did, and therefore they will continue to get my business.

@ursus said:

@denti Jano charges 350 not including the shipping costs just for a basic panel. Endo is like 180 extra and often not done in typical tests.

Plus delays even when they get it.

I’m planning to trash the whole kit unless Randy wants it. I don’t know if what I have is even part of the same batch as I bought it from a US vendor, but the cap and crimp is same color and not worth the risk to me.

Im stocked up on 2 kits from Nexaph 30mg SS-31 (rare under fill from them at 28.5mg). With the crypto discount comes out to $33 a vial for 30mg. Studz with their 50mg kit and discounts come out to 495. So Nexaph $1.10.mg and Studz $0.99/mg.

Either way S1Research/StepOne Ventures came through for me tonight with some discounts on their 50mg kit (57mg avg) tested with Freedom at $563.75 for me before applying rewards which made it $498 for me so right about the same price as Studz. If Studz had tested with anyone else I would have gave them a shot tonight and purchased from them.

@MJ227 said:

Just wanted to give everyone an update because I'm honestly pretty disappointed with how this has been handled.

I was told my refund would be taken care of, but I still haven't received anything. My payment was made through Zelle, and I've been checking regularly with no payment or transaction showing up.

At this point, it's frustrating. I wasn't asking for anything unreasonable—I received a bad product, then a replacement that was even worse, and all I wanted was a refund. I really hoped this would have been resolved by now.

I'll continue to update this thread if anything changes.

That's absolutely ridiculous that you still have not received your refund.

@Stevepep said:

@Eleanor It's the only way we have power in unity. F these vendors. There are so many good ones; no need to deal with the scammers

Agreed 100%. We have options. If someone gets screwed over by a vendor, even if we haven’t personally, we should not support that vendors business anymore. Support those who back their products and actually follow through when they say they will issue a refund.