If you’re feeling the icy, anaphylactic grip of death and don’t have an epi-pen… at least have an H1 & H2 antihistamine at the ready (Benadryl & Pepcid)

Pray for the vials tested on Fridays.

One of the selling points to me was that HCG could increase your testosterone without shutting down your nads. Obviously not TRT levels of boost. It seemed worth a try if it would alleviate symptoms & help with some moderate gains… especially if the bloodwork progressed in the right direction. It was only $66 for a kit on the Tegrity GB.

I might just have to bite the TRT bullet one day… it just seems like a big commitment is all.

Was looking into this or enclomaphine as an alternative to Test for low-T. Been reading more about it; watchin videos & lookin over bloodwork… not sure if anyone has any experience with HCG as a monotherapy.

Great question! I don’t know of any… but from my own research, I had better “healing gains” when I paired the Wolverine stack with intentional movement of the damaged area (i.e. physical therapy; resistance training; cardio). If you’re on your feet a lot or walk a bunch, maybe it’s helping circulation thru your old foot injury more. Just speculating tho I hope you get better, man!

I wish I knew about the couple supply sites yall are referencing before now! I paid pretty stupid high prices for 5x 30mL bottles 4mo ago and for my recent resupply. Yes, they’re legitimate Hospira BAC …but it was ~$17/bottle in May and ~$23/bottle two weeks ago. At least I have other purchasing options to look into once I’m done with these 5. Thanks gents!

It’s interesting to see how resilient lyophilized peps actually are. I’ll still store my long-term in the freezer… but it’s nice to not have to worry about summer transportation.

What’s been interesting from your other tests (of reconstituted peps) is how there seems to be a sort of exponential drop-off beyond a certain timeframe. I wonder if that holds true with lyophilized after a year or more in these conditions.

Great work @randy

@pep_researcher Agreed. Mine has a “6” (or “9”) printed on the bottom of it. I think it’s safe to say a letter or number on the bottom is ok (could be associated with batch), but a recycle-logo is not ok.

Someone should make a sexy chart for Hospira BAC that lists things that SHOULD be present and things that SHOULD NOT be present (that have been seen on known fakes).

Great info so far tho!

@diegoc Agreed. Sometimes the gear-chasing rabbit-holes can bum me out. I haven’t had any issues with the bulk pen-carts from Amazon nor the 50-pack of LocoFiltrs nor the Furwey “sterile” empty vials… but if I grow a 3rd arm, they’ll be the reason why.

Happy that everything worked out well. A mistake like this with CJC/IPA would have been a friggin nightmare. It may have helped having a genuine injury while also getting that many steps in as a sort of physical-therapy session to keep the joint movin. Definitely stay properly hydrated & get some sleep. Good mistake to learn from tho, happy you’re ok.

USMC; Infantry (2004-2010); …more than 10%, less than 100%

I figured since I survived the anthrax vaccine, peps should be ok

The Cjc/Ipa & Wolverine blends have made the biggest difference for me as far as healing nagging injuries & rest/recovery. I only do the Cjc/Ipa before bed on an empty stomach. But some folks get a 30min flush & elevated heart-rate, so they take it fasted in the morning. Not a doctor… but I really think it could aid in recovery after surgery. The recommended starting dosages are low enough that you could try 1 or 2 vials out and know if it’s helping by the time you’re done with them. Best of luck!

@commander @stevepep So you guys have paid for services at Kovera and had vials tested? Nice! Decent pricing? Reasonable turnaround time? Reviews from paid customers seem like the only way this community will learn about labs, honestly. Like I said, I’ve tried products they’ve tested and felt they were legit.

Kovera really showed their ass on the forum early on… then walked it back. Look at the original thread with the owner. I don’t think they’re bad tho. I will also say that every peptide I’ve purchased from either Ascension or Mile-High (both use Kovera) have worked out very well and there have been no adverse reactions.

Honestly, at the end of the day, what options does anyone really have? It’s an unregulated market! Janoshik is the apparent overseas “gold-standard,” but no one feels comfortable ranking US labs and, frankly, have almost no ground to stand on as far as vetting all of them. It’s one of the most frustrating parts of this entire peptide rabbit-hole. Hopefully labs get better PR teams & transparency in general.

Truthfully, it’s one of those things that can really help for old-timers (40+ yrs). It’s helped me (42) a little bit, but it’s been to help with injury/recovery & sleep. Nothin sexy. At around 18, I don’t think the upsides are really there in using it.

If you end up doing it anyway, ask what your end-goal is… then research if cjc/ipa will even align with it. I’d also get bloodwork done at a local lab first (ask about igf-1 levels) to see where you’re at. Without a goal going into it and a baseline blood test, you can’t measure progress.

If I was talking to 18yr-old me, there are better things to spend money on Best of luck.

@elijahkpaugh Yea, I noticed the 15iu had 97.749% as well. I’m thinkin I might roll the dice. Not the lowest price/iu on earth, but worth testing out a few vials to see how things feel. Waiting on latest bloodwork first.