Peptide Critic FO SHO! But I also like Alex Tatum, Nick Trigili, Dr Jones DC, and Ashley Froese. Not a fan of "Dr" Trevor Bachmeyer.

@Stevepep I agree. I am on several others, but I like this community the most.

Thanks for the info and posts. I ended up going with another online lab for bloodwork since they had what I thought was a great deal for 2 years with of testing, and I get my first draw later this month. Very excited to see what Reta and my lifestyle changes look like as compared to 2-3 years ago. Im obviously hoping for the same excellent outcome as you.

Crush and Nexaph have quickly become my go-to, and only found them through this Fan-Fuggin-Tastic community and site. Big shout out to @randy for what has been put together here.

And, admittedly, @stevepep while I dont love you enough to stalk you and run AI agents to track down your affiliations… I do very much appreciate the info you’ve shared.

@Commander um…. YOU posted in this thread.

Now kick yourself in the Jimmy.

I get what you’re saying, I do. I think if you would take a step back and realize you are both better off, and just “better” than the rest of us, it might ease your mind.

What your comments fail to recognize is your ability to do so. Some, I’ll use myself as the example, am not financially able to do what you suggest. Nor do I think it’s even logical to buy from a place like Nexaph at a premium then test again. Might as well buy the greyest cheapest you can find and go that route.

Nor do I have access to insurance to go about this the safest way possible and just spend the thousands through a Dr for FDA approved shit.

I worked my ass off to raise a family for over 3 decades, and now find myself unemployed and living off the nest egg I built without insurance, and quite honestly betrayed by the very industry that professes to keep us healthy. So I take it into my own hands. MY hands. Which means my decisions.

“Idiotic”? Maybe. Desperate not to die young as my genetics and long family history suggest, absolutely.

Your post, while I’m sure is well intended, is tone deaf and a narrow view. I’m happy you can do it the way you’re doing it. Well done sir.

Ill also add that the concern of mycoplasma does not seem to be of high concern, since it has a very hard time surviving the lyophilization AND rehydration process, not even adding in the 0.9% alcohol we are all using in our BAC water.

@pep_researcher I bought a 3-pack recently to do a test.

Their website says "sterile water", when the bottles showed up it is labeled as "Deionozed", so I emailed them.

Now, point of clarification; deionized water is just that, ran through a bed of resin to exchange ions to make it DE-ionized. Its meant to remove certain constituents and make the water close to inert conductively. You can make sterile water from deionozed water... by treatment to kill pathogens from a chemical, thermal, UV, filtration, or even gamma/E-beam technology.

Anyways, I emailed them and decided I would post their reply here.

As a matter of interest, I also learned that Lambda IS Peptide Crafters, as noted ont heir COA's. I didnt realize that before. Im sure most of you know this already, but I bring it up because the test that wa slinked earlier in this chat show both brands being tested, but with different results. This, along with the Hospira failure (although passing on its replicant test) tells me their testing method was not very sound.

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Also found this blurb about the stated "1.3 uS/cm" requirement. This indicates the industry standard for "UltraPure Water" (UPW). Info below.

@Stan-Douglas agree fully. Saying that exercise and lifting alone can accomplish the same thing, ignores biology and issues in some people. I’m mean, it seems pretty obvious, if you’re pituitary gland or nuts have something physically or biologically wrong with them, I don’t give a damn how many trips to the gym you make, it’s not going to matter.

It’s like saying people with clinical schizophrenia just aren’t getting enough sunshine and nature.

@Eleanor CANT BLAME A GUY FOR HAVING A CHRISTMAS WISH!!!

I read an excellent study on another forum the other day that compared Hospira to Genetek, and custom made water+alcohol at actual concentrations from 0.3-0.9. The intent was to determine efficacy and at what level of alcohol it actually stops working. It was a great work up and gave me a lot more confidence in the bigger names for BAC water since the alcohol concentration was closer to 0.5% than 0.9. At the standard 0.9% level, within 1 day nearly the entire population of bacteria were killed, and remained that way for >28 days regardless of storage temp. (3c or 28c)

@Canineriot exactly. It does not take an overly intelligent person to look through the data on NIH/WHO/HHS to see the fuckery that was happening. "Disgusting" is the polite word for it. I prefer "criminal".

$23 for whatever the BAC water is. LMAO. Ok , Rory…

Well, there goes any (real or imagined) benefit Crush had for me. TBH, I have still ordered more from Nexaph because of what I’m learning about their testing. Love to see this and hope it does not increase price.

Lemme throw a wrench in this discussion.... Crush is sending legit Hospira. I received a 3-pack for a friend just last week, and it was Hospira.

@Eleanor I dont recall seeing "Aminos Analytics" before, but Im new to this. I will say that after Commander was an asshat the other day (hugs and kisses big guy) Ive been searching around at labs, and see some disturbing info. There are some indications that the peptide sellers and manufacturers are not the only thing we should be worried about. One other testing lab has been called out for not being who they say they are, and not even having Mass Spectra equipment to do the testing they claim to do. True? Who knows... but the whole damned industry seems filled with shitheads willing to scam you.

So now, are we going to test the labs that do the tests, from the tests that were apparently done during manufacture? How many times do we have to test, retest, re-retest...

Trusting a "lab" that you haven't personally done an inspection on, validated their equipment, confirmed their calibrations and standards etc... Well, I think we can all agree, thats just "idiotic".

This is interesting! I had my CC, which i used at Crush, hacked and a very large Airline charge made on it about 2 weeks ago. I was able to cancel the card and get my money back… but I have been wondering where it was compromised. I know its not, nor will it ever be confirmed, but Ill just leave it at “interesting”.

@Eleanor It’s not a gift if you pay for it… and they most certainly did either legally or not.

I went into this with the idea and acceptance that I would be taking something for the rest of my life. GLP, Peptide/ Insulin... whatever. I know my genetics and T2D is a 100% guarantee if I do nothing, so i chose GLP for now and it has absolutely changed the game with my BG. So, if I can take a maintenance/micro dose after i hit my goal I will. Beats the other options in my opinion given the other positive benefits it looks to give.

@EXTROPIAN My son battles with it badly, and while sunlight helps, it is no replacement for medication. Wish you the best with yours. It’s terrible stuff.

@Stevepep Agreed. It was also nice of Randy to give props to @commander for all the work and money he’s been putting into his own testing.

Tons of great info here that is helping me get started as well. Do yourself a huge favor and spend some time, if you havent already, here: https://peptidecritic.com/tutorials

Very useful "How-to" videos that answer alot, most, of the questions us newer folks have.

@Stevepep I just watched a video on YT, from "PepTok" (Rory from Crush) and he interviews Trustpoint Analytical. Starting at about 7:30 he has the best explanation on the differences Ive heard yet. This, combined with several other comments about LPS from other well know podcasters, specifically Huberman, and Im starting to have a better understanding.
Thought I would mention it here. Maybe it helps. I am not linking it here because my dumbass hasn't read all of the forum rules and I dont want to get in trouble.