@Stevepep I agree. I am on several others, but I like this community the most.

Thanks for the info and posts. I ended up going with another online lab for bloodwork since they had what I thought was a great deal for 2 years with of testing, and I get my first draw later this month. Very excited to see what Reta and my lifestyle changes look like as compared to 2-3 years ago. Im obviously hoping for the same excellent outcome as you.

Crush and Nexaph have quickly become my go-to, and only found them through this Fan-Fuggin-Tastic community and site. Big shout out to @randy for what has been put together here.

And, admittedly, @stevepep while I dont love you enough to stalk you and run AI agents to track down your affiliations… I do very much appreciate the info you’ve shared.

Peptide Critic FO SHO! But I also like Alex Tatum, Nick Trigili, Dr Jones DC, and Ashley Froese. Not a fan of "Dr" Trevor Bachmeyer.

@Commander um…. YOU posted in this thread.

Now kick yourself in the Jimmy.

I get what you’re saying, I do. I think if you would take a step back and realize you are both better off, and just “better” than the rest of us, it might ease your mind.

What your comments fail to recognize is your ability to do so. Some, I’ll use myself as the example, am not financially able to do what you suggest. Nor do I think it’s even logical to buy from a place like Nexaph at a premium then test again. Might as well buy the greyest cheapest you can find and go that route.

Nor do I have access to insurance to go about this the safest way possible and just spend the thousands through a Dr for FDA approved shit.

I worked my ass off to raise a family for over 3 decades, and now find myself unemployed and living off the nest egg I built without insurance, and quite honestly betrayed by the very industry that professes to keep us healthy. So I take it into my own hands. MY hands. Which means my decisions.

“Idiotic”? Maybe. Desperate not to die young as my genetics and long family history suggest, absolutely.

Your post, while I’m sure is well intended, is tone deaf and a narrow view. I’m happy you can do it the way you’re doing it. Well done sir.

Ill also add that the concern of mycoplasma does not seem to be of high concern, since it has a very hard time surviving the lyophilization AND rehydration process, not even adding in the 0.9% alcohol we are all using in our BAC water.

I would love a way to filter the "unread" section, so I dont see all the vendor reviews.

@pep_researcher I bought a 3-pack recently to do a test.

Their website says "sterile water", when the bottles showed up it is labeled as "Deionozed", so I emailed them.

Now, point of clarification; deionized water is just that, ran through a bed of resin to exchange ions to make it DE-ionized. Its meant to remove certain constituents and make the water close to inert conductively. You can make sterile water from deionozed water... by treatment to kill pathogens from a chemical, thermal, UV, filtration, or even gamma/E-beam technology.

Anyways, I emailed them and decided I would post their reply here.

As a matter of interest, I also learned that Lambda IS Peptide Crafters, as noted ont heir COA's. I didnt realize that before. Im sure most of you know this already, but I bring it up because the test that wa slinked earlier in this chat show both brands being tested, but with different results. This, along with the Hospira failure (although passing on its replicant test) tells me their testing method was not very sound.

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Also found this blurb about the stated "1.3 uS/cm" requirement. This indicates the industry standard for "UltraPure Water" (UPW). Info below.

Welcome. Good tips above and would absolutely mirror them.

Start slow = meaning 1 research compound at a time AND very low doseing to start, to check how you react.

Start with your "problem statement"... dont get caught up in the hype of a compound. Ask yourself what your trying to fix, then research that.

I would recommend you start learning crypto if you dont already know how to buy/transfer/send to and from a wallet. Tons of good articles to teach you.

@Stan-Douglas agree fully. Saying that exercise and lifting alone can accomplish the same thing, ignores biology and issues in some people. I’m mean, it seems pretty obvious, if you’re pituitary gland or nuts have something physically or biologically wrong with them, I don’t give a damn how many trips to the gym you make, it’s not going to matter.

It’s like saying people with clinical schizophrenia just aren’t getting enough sunshine and nature.

I went into this with the idea and acceptance that I would be taking something for the rest of my life. GLP, Peptide/ Insulin... whatever. I know my genetics and T2D is a 100% guarantee if I do nothing, so i chose GLP for now and it has absolutely changed the game with my BG. So, if I can take a maintenance/micro dose after i hit my goal I will. Beats the other options in my opinion given the other positive benefits it looks to give.

@Eleanor CANT BLAME A GUY FOR HAVING A CHRISTMAS WISH!!!

@Stevepep Agreed. It was also nice of Randy to give props to @commander for all the work and money he’s been putting into his own testing.

@Canineriot exactly. It does not take an overly intelligent person to look through the data on NIH/WHO/HHS to see the fuckery that was happening. "Disgusting" is the polite word for it. I prefer "criminal".

$23 for whatever the BAC water is. LMAO. Ok , Rory…

I read an excellent study on another forum the other day that compared Hospira to Genetek, and custom made water+alcohol at actual concentrations from 0.3-0.9. The intent was to determine efficacy and at what level of alcohol it actually stops working. It was a great work up and gave me a lot more confidence in the bigger names for BAC water since the alcohol concentration was closer to 0.5% than 0.9. At the standard 0.9% level, within 1 day nearly the entire population of bacteria were killed, and remained that way for >28 days regardless of storage temp. (3c or 28c)

@claycarpenter1 I would suggest you look around this forum, learn, search and use the tools that are provided.

Just because you can ask about sources in your very first post here, doesn’t mean you should. You will quickly find that this community is more about info and, well community, than it is about finding a cheap source. If that’s what you’re looking for, you’re in the right place, but take some time and put some effort in.

If you’re just looking for a cheap source, I might recommend Reddit. Feel free to read the recent post about Reddit in this forum.

Welcome. Good luck.

Well, there goes any (real or imagined) benefit Crush had for me. TBH, I have still ordered more from Nexaph because of what I’m learning about their testing. Love to see this and hope it does not increase price.

Lemme throw a wrench in this discussion.... Crush is sending legit Hospira. I received a 3-pack for a friend just last week, and it was Hospira.

@Stevepep you wouldn’t like my Onlyfans then….

@Randy Me too! Guys like Hunt_ak and the others that contribute a lot are what make this place great.

@Eleanor I dont recall seeing "Aminos Analytics" before, but Im new to this. I will say that after Commander was an asshat the other day (hugs and kisses big guy) Ive been searching around at labs, and see some disturbing info. There are some indications that the peptide sellers and manufacturers are not the only thing we should be worried about. One other testing lab has been called out for not being who they say they are, and not even having Mass Spectra equipment to do the testing they claim to do. True? Who knows... but the whole damned industry seems filled with shitheads willing to scam you.

So now, are we going to test the labs that do the tests, from the tests that were apparently done during manufacture? How many times do we have to test, retest, re-retest...

Trusting a "lab" that you haven't personally done an inspection on, validated their equipment, confirmed their calibrations and standards etc... Well, I think we can all agree, thats just "idiotic".