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Just buy Nexaph. Same company and still cheaper than this sale.

@researchcat My game plan is to take ATX-0304, then layer in SS-31, and then transition to MOTS-C. I'll add NAD+ at some point.

My curiousity was around the effective dosage for SS-31.

I'm 48. I'm looking at SS-31 like an oil change for my mitochondria, not an engine overhaul. I've seen claims that 40mg daily of SS-31 has the same effect as 4mg daily for most people.

Here is a video recommending 5-10mg/day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjUm5gkSwRk

Here is an article recommending 5mg/day.
https://www.innerbody.com/ss-31-peptide

If that is the case, that is a huge cost variance from the protocol Randy posted above - Roughly 300mg vs 1000mg over a 60 day period.

I was curious if people felt like sticking with the 4-5mg dose for 60 days was effective, based on their research.

These different channels have different target audiences.

I'm not a fan of Trevor Bachmeyer's delivery and rambling, but he does have some good nuggets if you can sift through a video. I use it to verify certain questions I might have.

I really like Jacob Nachinson. His recent experiment on mitochondrial optimization was really good. He also has some good TRT content.

I also watch Nick Trigili, Alex Tatem, Ashley Froese and occasionally Kristin Sawicki and Cynthia Garcia (for my wife).

I do like Dr Jones DC. His audience is not hardcore biohackers. It's mostly sick people who tried losing weight on doctor prescribed GLPs and ended up effed up.

In total transparency, I used Dr Jones coaching for several months and have spoken to him 1:1 and in group calls. His program is centered on metabolic reset and fixing insulin sensitivity more than peptides.

There are people on his calls who followed Dr prescribed use of GLPs and ended up on crazy high doses, unable to eat, and stuck from a weight loss standpoint. I've been on calls with people like this and it's sad. Of course it's a business, but he's a pretty genuine guy and some of his coaches are great. I do not buy peptides from him. His prices are high and he knows it and is trying to get the prices down, but he cannot compete with the gray market.

On my 1:1 call, I spoke in detail about a multi-month, multi-peptide protocol to work alongside his fasting and weight loss protocol and he's very knowledgable. My body recomp was very successful during this period and I definitely learned things that I still use today.

It's like college courses. Some of these people provide 100-200 entry level content about peptides and others go deep and scientific about peptides, hormones, and even steroids.

I have a case of Hospira en route, but the shipping is delayed by a week, so I called my local CVS to see if I could pick up one bottle over the counter, on the off chance it would work.

She didn't recognize the term bacteriostatic water and tried to transfer my call to the front of the store to try "cleaning supplies".

This, ladies and gentlemen, is we are all operating outside the conventional Western medical system.

I'm just wrapping up my first cycle of Tesa/Ipa. I used a 10mg/3mg blend from Nexaph and just received my 2nd kit from them for next time.

I loved it. I've added muscle and dropped visceral fat.

I ran it 5 days on, 2 days off. I generally took it at just before bedtime, but I did experiment taking it fasted in the morning for a week.

I started with 1mg tesa / 300 mcg Ipa and titrated up to 1.35mg/400mcg and eventually 1.6mg/ 480 mcg before winding it back down to 1.35mg/400mcg for the last 2 weeks.

Be patient. My weight loss stalled a little in weeks 3 and 4. I suspected it was water weight. The weight started dropping again around week 5. My results really shined after week 8.

I'm on Week 14 now and will stop after week 16 and take a 6 week break.

So you give them 1 star b/c they offer savings for bulk orders? Isn't that a positive?

What did you use for the chart?

I'm down from 306 to 239 since January and I'd love to overlay my peptide cycles, which I've tracked.

@ResearchCat said:

@justalittleprick Yeah, he definitely has a target audience and we are not it. You’d know better than me, but I would imagine it is upscale mostly women who want and can afford concierge level care.

The all-in quote I got for my wife was around $6,000/month for HRT, GLOW, Tirz, minoxidil, and maybe a couple other things. We are doing the same for about $600 a month and most of that is the HRT and minoxidil.

Wow!

I just did the weight loss program with SLU-PP-332, AOD-9604, and O-304. It was about $800/,month including coaching and the above mentioned peptides and I ran it through my HSA.

I have my own Reta, KLOW, Tesa/IPA, etc and do my TRT elsewhere.

I read the letter for one of the vendors and it mentioned BAC water, which is disappointing and signals the direction they are going to go if/when they crack down.

"BAC Water
Your firm offers “BAC Water” for sale alongside peptide products, which are drugs intended for injection and require reconstitution, including the above-mentioned products. The sale of these products together demonstrates that you intend for your “BAC Water” to be used in combination for injection. Therefore, your “BAC Water” is a drug."

I've stocked up on a case of BAC and a couple years worth of Reta and a year of Tirz.

I can see the FDA throwing us a few bones, but coming down hard on the GLPs.

I'm updating this thread to be a review of my experience of a recent order.

I placed an order during their Easter Promo for a 10 pack of 40mg MOTS-C.

Website: I like their website layout and email marketing. I added this product to cart during a 20% off promo and then waited for feedback on the above post while I considered placing an order. The next day, I received an email for an additional 10% off as a cart abandonment marketing tactic. This code stacked with the 20% off, making the deal really enticing.

I did have some issues with the checkout portion of their shopping experience, but I believe it was due to Mastercard not being supported. I switched to a different card and was able to complete my order.

Shipping: I placed my order over the weekend, and the product was shipped via FedEx on Monday from Florida. I received it on the West Coast by midday on Thursday.

The MOTS-C was clearly labeled with the corresponding batch ID printed on the label, which matched the Freedom COA posted on the site.

I plan to start researching with this MOTS-C in about a month. I'll update this thread with my experience with the product.

I've seen SS-31 recommendations ranging from 2-4mg daily up to 40mg daily. It sounds like the 40mg comes from a trial for people with Barth syndrome, which is really rare and an extreme case of mitochondrial disfuntion.

For those of you researching SS-31 in the 2-4mg daily range along with or as a precursor to MOTS-C, were you happy with the effects or do you think higher doses are required?

I started 2.5mg about a month ago and then increased to 5mg.

One thing to note: Do NOT take a pre-workout that has L-citrulline or nitrates in it. It can cause your blood pressure to drop too much, which can be very dangerous.

I like my pre-workout and I had to totally stop taking it b/c it contained L-citrulline. The first time I took a 2.5mg and then used my pre-workout, I felt a blood pressure drop while doing squats. No bueno.

I drink a Celcius now for the caffeine.

Effects:

I have nice vascularity in my forearms and biceps and get a good pump at the gym. I feel like my blood pressure in a really good state and the always on dose is good for the intended benefits.

I have blood labs tomorrow, so I'll look for other positive endothelial signs.

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Werewolf blend? I'm in!