Peptide Critic Community

Thanks, All.
So much appreciated - the rat is limping around this morning which means no running on the wheel for a couple of days.
He pretty much sucks at sitting still.

Still relatively new to this and have settled into a stack and developing new habits.

I thought I would share process to date and planned going forward and let those with more experience throw some rocks (or polite suggestions) at my stack, dosage, injection sites, supplements, etc.

History of the rabbit:

• Given a life expectancy of 10 years (and I am shooting for 100 personally), the rabbit is 6 1/2 years old.
• Extensive knee, and probably hip and back, injury at early age
• Torn "shoulder" bits at approximately mid-life
• Recent "elbow" tendonitis - debilitating, almost complete loss of left forearm
• Ongoing foot (plantar fasciitis or heel spurs?) issues
• Other than the shoulders, this is all predominantly left side of body

Loss of elbow functionality occured on tax day this year, followed by 6 weeks of limited to no functionality.

Began PT late May - focus on hips and rebalancing of general body mobility, icing and stim on specific injuries.

Also began researching peptides.

Peptide Research:
June 6: Began BPC157 and TB500
BPC157 - .2mg daily SQ elbow, titrated to .5mg over 4 weeks
TB500 - .75mg (day one) SQ abdomen twice weekly titrated to 1.5mg over 3 weeks

Elbow functionality began returning mid 2nd week, large reduction in pain while resting, noticeable reduction in pain under load.

July 6: Addition of GHK-Cu and Cartalax, Mod of BPC to cover elbow and left knee/heel.
BPC-157 - 0.5mg daily SQ elbow (Sun, Tue, Thur, Sat); knee (Mon, Wed, Fri)
TB500 - 1.5mg SQ abdomen Sun and Wed
GHK-Cu - 0.7mg daily SQ abdomen, will titrate to 2mg daily (1mg wk 2, 1.5mg wk 3, 2mg wk 4) assuming no adverse reaction.
Cartalax - 1.0mg daily SQ shoulder (Sun, Tue, Thur, Sat), hip (Mon, Wed, Fri), will titrate to 2mg daily (1.4mg wk 2, 2.0mg wk 3)

Plan is to reach a plateau beginning of August with (summary):
BPC-157 - 0.5mg daily (split between elbow and knee)
Cartalax - 2.0mg daily (split between shoulder and hip)
GHK-Cu - 2.0mg daily (abdomen)
TB-500 - 1.5mg 2x/week (abdomen)

Will run through September then pause for 4 weeks and evaluate.

Any thoughts on dosages, injection sites?

I have seen a variety of dosage recommendations for Cartalax, some bigger and some smaller than what I am planning, same with the GHK-Cu.

I plan to have my vet do bloodwork that includes tests for copper and zinc - anything else I should have him look for?

My motivation for splitting elbow/knee and shoulder/hip is to deal with the elbow first, but also start on the knee and heel issues. With all the left side issues, the rabbit looks like a NASCAR driver. Pining Cartalax in shoulder and hip with the thought that gravity will suck it down while providing coverage for those joints as well.

There have been no side effects thus far other than slight pin-sight itch (10-15 minutes at most) and slight bruising plus a very vague almost headache or eye-itch about 30 minutes after injection, either goes away or becomes unnoticeable after about 10-15 minutes.

Big glass house - throw some rocks.

Hey! This can't be the end!
Did this discussion move or get restarted under another topic?
Was the comparison test ever done?

Not sure what original poster wrote, but I came looking because the tutorials are gone from Face Tube and that the account was closed.
Any news about what is going on.

Jumping in to see if I can help the rat with his joint injuries and issues.

Going fairly simple with BPC-157 daily and TB-500 2-3 / week.

I have been watching videos, asking questions, even reading!

If I am not mixing or re-vial-ing, do I need to filter?

If so, what is the best filter specs for BPC & TB?

Cheers

Two days ago I ordered my first peptides for work the wabbits joint injuries: BPC157 and TB500.

I ordered a 10 vial (10mg) kit of each from Nexaph.

Today Nexaph reached out to inform me that indepenent testing revealed that the TB500 was underfilled so Nexaph issued a 25% refund (as a credit, which I will gladly use), and stated that the testing shows the content to be good (safe to use) other wise. A link was provided which sho-nuf showed about 25% light, but all >= 99.89% purity.

I am thrilled to know that ungoing testing is actually being done and just as thrilled that Nexaph is owning the issue and making it right.

As a noob, the tech question is this: Is proper reconstitution just a simple matter of using the 7.5mg (instead of 10mg) value in the calculator?

Thanks to Nexaph and to anyone willing to help the noob.

Cheers

Howdy all,
The old rat is limping along and struggling with several age and activity related injuries.
The old mystical arts applied by big pharma just are not working.
Peptides have been recommended, specifically BPV157 and TB500 to address the injuries and inflammation.
How do you find out about dosing (amount, frequency, reconstitution, etc)?
Thanks for the help - look forward to the rat rejoining the race.
Zot

Thanks all! Guess it's a "grey" area! I have to say I am a bit concerned that I can find no evidence that any of the sources I have looked at so far are actually US mfg, so I might start off with some filters.

@matthewwalsh
Matt
Can you point me to ‘the Nexaph thing’?
I just started my research and purchased my BPC 157 and TB 500 from them.
I had not seen anything negative so, if there is something I might oughta know I would appreciate the hint.
Cheers

Sorry Matt.. I found it. Yeah, I would be very disgruntled to receive product that I wouldn’t even know how to reconstitute if every vial was different.

I am about 3 weeks in on my first research project for a rabbit with blown elbow, and knee and ankle/heel issues. I have been injecting BPC daily with dose split between and elbow and knee areas and TBC 2x/week in abodomen.

At about 10 days in, elbow mobility and pain had noticeable improvement and there have been no noticeable issues or side-effects beyond some minor irritation at injection sites.

Going to up the game a bit and add Cartalax and GHK-Cu and wondering if anyone has gone this route and what dosing/injection protocols might be recommended.

For example, I am considering stacking the injections to reduct daily count by "drawing" all 4 into a single syringe (plus maybe some extra BAC to soften the blow of the Cu).

When you use Wolverine or DeadPool stacks, is the recommendation for abdomen or injury site injection?

Since I am studying use of peptides for a collection of joint issues, I am interested in whether anyone has studied single site (abdomen) vs one-injury-at-a-time for some period vs alternating injury site injections on a rotating site basis.

Hope that makes sense.

@Eleanor
Thanks for your input.

I did not specify, but I have been giving all doses in the evening, vaguely around supper time.

I am not sure if there is a benefit one way or another for evening vs morning.

The rabbit eats early evening then no food until ~11 am (except for a dose of caffeine with a little protein powder mixed in at 6-7am), so thinking was that the peptides would start making their rounds shortly after digestion had gone to work and then have hours to play around. Certainly no medical education behind it. I am a rocket scientist, not a brain sugeon, Jim! (bad quote of a proper engineer).

I have seen such a wide range of recommendations for the Cartalax, some that max at 2mg, some that start there and go to 5mg daily. My plan is to ramp fairly quickly with the hope of seeing some effect, but not so quickly that I cannot bail if there are issues. So far the rabbit seems quite tolerant of just about anything stuck in him except alcohol.

I did not know you could still get DMSO! I will look into that. I assume vet or farm stores?

More thoughts. And Actions. And Headache?
So I am wondering if "stack" specifically means a cocktail all mixed into one vial, or is the word also used to describe the collection of peptides which are individually pinned but all part of the same cycle?
I like the idea of controlling specific doses and not worrying about chemical degradation if two (or more) peps are mixed/stored in a single vial and drawn in a single syringe, so I have my "stack" (BPC, TB500, KPV, GHK-Cu, Cartalax) as seperate vials but hate sticking the rabbit 4 times per night (5 on Sun/Wed for the TB500).
Tonight I drew all but the TB500 and squirted them into the butt end of a single syringe and poked the rabbit once with that pile and another time with the TB500. It seemed to go ok, but seems to have "pressure" in his right eye plus a mild headache for about 20 minutes.
The rabbit is a freakin hypochondriac (spelling?) so it may be psychosomatic, but any others note similar reaction?
Additional note - increased Caratalax from 2mg to 3mg today - only change with start of a new week.
Cheers