@Commander As discussed, I am with you on this; the Kovera interface is great. I was a big proponent of ILS, but no more; it's like the grey market they are good until they aren't.
You are 100% right. I never thought of it that way, the Lab is Good until it is not. But at least iLS gave Cujo his 15 minutes of fame. Dam I miss the little guy.
@vpeptides
I have to look, mine might have them on it.
Medex is $320 a case now..
@Commander ...so it was you!
Might be time to change the username to patient zero.
Yep, just my luck. Hadn’t be over there in 20 years before that. Then my dumb ass decided to go over to visit a friend and BAM I got Covid before anyone here even knew it was a thing.
But the good thing (at least for me) was because I had the OG Covid, I never got it again…
So is there a list of what it can and can’t be used for?
@commander who was raided?
Supposedly LN Peptides. But from what a few of the people I talk to that go over to China, they said the authorities are starting to come down hard. I haven’t been to China since Dec 2019… and guess what I came back with.
I think we are going to see a lot more Zero Peptides showing up. It seems like the china manufactures are getting raided and shut down a lot lately.
This only enforces what has been said on this forum over and over… Test the actual peptides YOU receive, do not trust posted COAs.
Coke-Zero became a thing, now Peptide-Zero is becoming a thing…
MOTS-C showing 97% purity on Jano and then 99% on Freedom?? Exactly same thing with Tesa too
You are right. The same batch, 97.6%-97.7% on Janoshik COA and 99.99% for Tesa on Freedom Diagnostics COA. What does it tell us?
Freedom has been messing up a lot lately, in BIG ways… I wouldn’t trust anything test from them.
I use to use them all the time, but never again.
I have started using Kovera more and more since Jeff and I sent out a full kit of the Reta I bought from (the now gone Pros-Biio) to different labs for testing. It went to Jano (courtesy of Kels), iLS (sent in twice, once from me and once from Jeff), AFi, Freedom & Kovera. Freehold tested it at half the amount as the rest if the other labs, iLS, AFi and Kovera all were close to Jano. ILS and Freedom are out of the game as far as I am concerned (discussed in other threads), add AFi is only taking email orders. That left me with Kovera.
Kovera started off rocky, I suspect growing pains, but now has been reliable. I now they spent a ton of money upgrading their equipment recently. I believe they are trying to compete with Jano as far as quality in testing goes, or at least be the US gold standard…
The web portal is the best I have used out if about 7 different us labs. One thing to note, all of the US labs are really bad at communication, it seems they are all really busy and can’t keep up to emails.
So I decided that Kovera is my go to, AFi is my backup. But everyone has to decide for themselves. I spent a ton of money testing at different labs, and believe me I thought Kovera was going to be my last choice (I actually thought iLS would be first), but I was wrong and not afraid to admit it…
And Kovera never put Cujo on any COAs..
@ResearchCat
Oh… Nope, just wanted enough so I don’t ever have to worry about it again. Since I only take it low dose I am good. I bought it from Pros-Bio before he skipped town and screwed people.
Unfortunately with the other stuff I take, I can barely keep a 2 year supply on hand, it takes up too much room 
$299 is still a lot as far as I am concerned…
Sorry @commander , I’m afraid that is called “dealer weight.”
What is “dealer weight”?
Time will tell… But I don’t actually have to worry about it. I take low dose (2mg weekly) and I bought 15 kits of Reta 20mg. One kit was donated to test the different labs against each other. I have 14 left…
@Mydogdaryl423
Yep I do...
So I believe I brought this months ago…
I said back then and I am saying it again now, Big Pharma will do everything they can to stop black market Reta. They will pressure the Chinese government to impose harsh penalties on any company that is selling it. Sure will we still be able to get it, probably, but at a much higher cost. Steroids are NOT comparable to this because there is not big money in Steroids. This simple has to do with $$$.
The people who will really get affected by this are the people who are not buying from the Grey Market, the people who are buying only a couple vials at a time. It won’t be long until they come after all the single vial sellers lime Mile High, Puratek, etc…
Good thing I literally bought 10 years of Reta a couple months ago. I am set, won’t need to buy it again, by the time I run out, there will be something way better.
I personally think you are overthinking this… and trying to find a Vendor that sells a peptide with exact specs you want will be impossible. There are only a few manufacturers that actually make this stuff in China, every place is getting it from one of them. That is why when we see a bad test result from one vendor, a few more pop up with the same bad results- they get it from the same place…
ZestyRat = DirtyRat
So now that ILS is on the shit list do we still trust freedom?? Seems like the high majority of vendors are using ILS and Freedom
I don’t trust Freedom anymore. At least twice with me they have come back 30% to 50% different than the other Labs
@judgetoo I'm having trouble losing my belly fast and I've heard Tessa can help with this. What was your experience?
I was able to get rid of a lot of my belly visceral fat on Rets (Low Dose), MOTS-C, NAD+ & Tesa/IPA. Made a huge difference, I think I am 5 months in now.
@icynemby
Vendor testing is private testing… They send in they said in the samples like anyone else does.
In fake, when I sent in my samples to them I sent them in under “my own company (Vendor) name). I don’t actually have any company selling peptides, I just put down that I was a company, with custom labels with “my company’s” name on it and batch numbers...
