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Issues like these seem to keep popping up with all aspects related to peptides.
Now think of this. What if we all didn’t have a place like Peptide Critic to come to and learn about all the shady things these companies are trying. So many people would be buying peptides that weren’t what they actually thought they were…

These conversations never end well… and are really not about peptides. Do we really want to argue over non peptide stuff? We have plenty of peptide stuff to argue over….

My quick get to fridge… The big stuff is in the freezer

The SNP Telegram group just booted me for posting those results.
I am starting to realize that too many people in these Telegram groups and boards have a vested interest not to have clear transparent information out there. I mean arguing with me about a test report is crazy.
It is simple, we always say test your peptides, but why would we do that if we simply didn’t believe the results that we got or didn’t share them. It is more like- only tell us if it is favorable to us, otherwise keep your mouth shut or we will ban you or try to discredit you.
The peptide space unfortunately is not an unbias place and too many people have a steak in the game…

@quicksilver80
I completely agree. But people take posting those results as bad. Those results aren’t bad at all. The bad thing is they differ very much from Janoshik’s.
My worry is why do we have two different test results? Is Freedom off, is Janoshik off or is this just one odd ball vial. We really should get to the bottom of this if we are going to trust any test results at all, otherwise we are flying blind.
What if Freedom’s test results are bad? If thst is the case we wouldn’t want people to keep sending in and paying for tests that aren’t valid would we?
These results only reassure me that I am getting good product from Nexaph. I will always buy from them.
BUT a huge red flag was how quick they booted me from the SNP group for posting those test results and they were very aggressive in telling me how Janoshik is the Gold Standard in testing me and that is the entire peptide community’s opinion. How would they know what the entire peptide community thinks? Especially if they censor it…
I Inspect What I Expect, I have no bias. I share what I find good or bad. For what it is worth, I hate finding contradictory stuff. When I do, I am faced with should I share my findings and face a ton of people arguing me about them. Or keep everything I find out just for me and my friends. It actually sucks..

Although Nexaph has fallen out of my favor for various reasons, they are the best prices you are going to get unless you go grey. You also get your product in usually 4 days or less.
I won’t buy from them anymore, but for other reasons…

I have started using Kovera more and more since Jeff and I sent out a full kit of the Reta I bought from (the now gone Pros-Biio) to different labs for testing. It went to Jano (courtesy of Kels), iLS (sent in twice, once from me and once from Jeff), AFi, Freedom & Kovera. Freehold tested it at half the amount as the rest if the other labs, iLS, AFi and Kovera all were close to Jano. ILS and Freedom are out of the game as far as I am concerned (discussed in other threads), add AFi is only taking email orders. That left me with Kovera.
Kovera started off rocky, I suspect growing pains, but now has been reliable. I now they spent a ton of money upgrading their equipment recently. I believe they are trying to compete with Jano as far as quality in testing goes, or at least be the US gold standard…
The web portal is the best I have used out if about 7 different us labs. One thing to note, all of the US labs are really bad at communication, it seems they are all really busy and can’t keep up to emails.
So I decided that Kovera is my go to, AFi is my backup. But everyone has to decide for themselves. I spent a ton of money testing at different labs, and believe me I thought Kovera was going to be my last choice (I actually thought iLS would be first), but I was wrong and not afraid to admit it…
And Kovera never put Cujo on any COAs..

There has been a ton of speculation and excuses about why people are having problems with Chimera, and it has not just been one person having a problem. For those who don’t believe that, go look back at the post. Jeff (Randy) spent his money to do a test, just like he spent his money to do a test on peptide degradation.
The results of that test are what they are, regardless of what he or anyone else wants them to be.
I would have love to find one of these grey vendors selling Mots-c for $50 a kit to be reliable. I will buy a lot of kits (I love Mots-c) Jeff has recommended I look into a certain grey market vendor that he has used in the past that might meet my needs (even though I am picky).
But to make those recommendations, he has to blind test the vendors. He has nothing to gain, but could loose his money. He doesn’t have to spend his money to do a test, it probably will not get more members here. This board will be here and get new members if he risks his money or not. And the members could just go back and forth and make recommendations to each other.
BUT of many vendors will create accounts on here, pretend to be normal people and recommend themselves to other members. Or worse, make excuses for vendors when there are problems… we all know Jeff (Randy) owns the board. We know his is not a fake user. He is literally posting screenshots of what he is seeing and what he is telling us. If someone thinks he is photoshopping that stuff, they also probably believe the feds or Elvis is following them around and spying on them.
He has said it from the start, Vendors are good until they are not. I always say Inspect What You Expect. He is inspecting whether or not there are problems with this vendor. Just like he ran a test to end the debate on peptide degradation after being reconed. I wish the results were different on that test, I wish the tested peptides were 95% at 90 days in the refrigerator. I don’t like the results (because makes it harder for me to plan out my usage) but the results are what they are, nothing more, nothing less. Is anyone arguing over those results? Are people on that thread saying the the test results are bogus because the lab probably didn’t calibrate the temp on the refrigerator and it was really 54 degrees in there and that is why the peptides lost potency so fast?
People what to ignore what is in front of them because they don’t like what they see. But like I have said before, No one can complain after reading what is going on with Jeff’s order if they choose to order from this Vendor. Everyone has to choose the risks they are willing to take. But once you have been warned - You Can’t Complain If It Goes South… Oder at your own risk. Don’t put your hands outside the car on the roller coaster. Don’t try and feed the Alligators. Plenty of warnings that people ignore and they or their family complain when they get hurt…

Here are some labels I made on the M2…

With the amount of Peptides I take even Nexaph would be too expensive. I figured it out, just in NAD 500mg alone we use 58 vials a year… forget about KLOW, we use 38 vials a year. From Nexaph the KLOW alone would be $1800 and the NAD 500 would be $1350. Now add in MOTS-C, Reta and Tesa/Ipa… way too much. I have no choice but to buy from China direct… and it still isn’t cheap. But I have not felt this pain free in 20 years

That would be an insane amount of work for him. Especially when it is as simple as just registering on their website. So basically what you are saying is “Jeff, can you go check all the prices, come here and post them, even though that would take you hours because I can’t be bothered taking the 5 minutes to set up my own account “
That is a great idea. When he is done doing that maybe he can come clean all the windows in your house and perhaps wash you car…

Just a warning, anyone that was buying from Barn, be warned. Tests are coming back (check STG) that have cross contamination of other peptides mixes in with products and under dosed products .
If you call her out she will just ban you. She even banned one of her ling time admins for questioning her in these bad results. But of course, being it wasn’t Jano that did the test (Freedom did the test) she won’t do anything about it.
So before anyone replies to defend her, Don’t bother. I don’t care that it wasn’t Jano who did the test. And we all pick are risks. Instead of defending her, just keep using her products. Maybe you will be the one hurt by them… Natural Selection is a good thing!!!

No COAs because it is bringing heat down… ya that doesn’t sound legit to me. Especially when 75% of vendors out here have COAs.
So is his reasoning “if I just sell the stuff and don’t show it is real I am ok”
Even if you attempt to sell fake coke it is still a crime. So his reasoning makes ZERO sense. In fact that draws more red flags for me. But everyone has to trust who they want.
In the Corps we have a saying, Inspect What You Expect…

Pens are the best. To be honest when I first started taking BPC-157 a few years ago I wasn’t consistent with my shots because it was a pain in the ass. I also tried GH years ago, same thing. I wasted more kits by taking a shots for 2 days in a row and then being lazy and not taking it for a week or so.
I saw something on a pen and I did an internet search on pens. It brought me to the YT Peptide Critic video on pens. I ordered right away from here, and have been on here being a pain in the ass ever since…

Labeled…

I haven’t. They only care if the test report came from Janoshik. And that is my concern from the start.
Think of it this way (I am actually going to start another topic about this). If you wanted a second opinion on something the doctor told you, would you just ask him again or would you go to a different doctor? In my opinion, getting a test result verified means taking it to someone else to check, not the same people who did it the first time…

$500 is ridiculous… luck I bought 3 cases already. Now I am printing hard case for each case with the exp date on it..

If something requires a prescription, like say semaglutide, companies cannot sell it to people that do not have a prescription…
Everyone thinks Kennedy allowing compounding pharmacies to make those peptides is a good thing - It is not! It is one step closer to not allowing any place to sell them, no matter what the purpose is, to anyone without a prescription.
Do not underestimate what Judges, DA, Prosecutors, etc. will do. The court system is not a fair system, I see it all the time when I am in court (yes I am an attorney). When a Judge has an addenda, they will rule the way they want to and that isn’t necessarily what the law actually is. Don’t believe me, ask anyone that went through a divorce in the court system…

@ResearchCat
I feel like Tesamorelin is the king (Next to straight GH of course)

It doesn’t need to be stored in the refrigerator. Cool dark place is all it needs