The "ghetto" Reta Stack. Tirz + Survo/Maz
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What if your rat is on 12.5mg Tirz, how would one work survo into this dose? Or should it make an immediate switch to try Reta first?
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Rebekah my fluffy research rat is not impressed with survo 0.300 with 7.5 of tirz. She is fighting me for sweets. She had better sweet control on sema but after 2 years her weight stalled so moved to tirz and weight stalled after an initial small loss of 10 lbs. Rebekah would like me to increase her survo to 0.600 with next dose, despite the fact she only had one dose of survo at 0.300. Is this a bad idea? Any suggestions are welcome.
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Rebekah my fluffy research rat is not impressed with survo 0.300 with 7.5 of tirz. She is fighting me for sweets. She had better sweet control on sema but after 2 years her weight stalled so moved to tirz and weight stalled after an initial small loss of 10 lbs. Rebekah would like me to increase her survo to 0.600 with next dose, despite the fact she only had one dose of survo at 0.300. Is this a bad idea? Any suggestions are welcome.
@Americanchild probably not. Trials started at 0.6mg. So Rebekah is expected to be fine.
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@Americanchild probably not. Trials started at 0.6mg. So Rebekah is expected to be fine.
@pep_researcher thank you
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@Randy Is Reta itch issue due to GIP or combination or all three RAs?
I'm stocked up like crazy on Reta and now wondering if that was the right decision. I came across Survo later when I fell in the peptide rabbit hole deep.
Dropped Tirz from 10mg to 5mg due to horrible fatigue and inability to lift prior weights on 10mg.
Added Survo 3 weeks ago.
@pep_researcher How are you doing on this?
I have MazD and will be starting it Tues. Pinning Tirz on Sat.
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@pep_researcher How are you doing on this?
I have MazD and will be starting it Tues. Pinning Tirz on Sat.
@F8hnGM4Eva I'm stalled for 6 weeks now. I don't have a lot to lose so I'm not pushing it. Right now at 5mg Tirz and 0.8mg Survo 3 days apart. Will keep Tirz same and titrate up Survo to 1mg.
After I finish my T and S vials. I'm going to jump to Reta as I just want to break the stall and move the needle.
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Rebekah the fluffy rat is down 2.4 lbs since starting survo 0.6 mg. She would like to increase to1.2 mg this week which is weak three. No side effects. Tirz 7.5 but if survo kicks in will decrease her to 5 mg. Should I go ahead and give her that dose or keep her at 0.6 mg for another a week or two? OPINIONS WELCOME.
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Clouse the Lab Mouse has been suplimenting the Tirz with the Cagri, was a success but undecided if i should get more Cagri or perhaps trying the Survo or Mazdu
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Rebekah the rat says go survo! She had been in a stall for months and it finally broke.
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Thanks for posting this. Was looking to augment because of fatty liver issues a few years ago, so wanted supplement in a glucagon with my tirz. Been doing reta 2mg but the skin thing has been off putting, but not so much to stop, but titration up is unlikely. Like to try these two options next. EZ Peptides didn't show any in stock. Any other USA source recommendations out there? Thanks.
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Thanks for posting this. Was looking to augment because of fatty liver issues a few years ago, so wanted supplement in a glucagon with my tirz. Been doing reta 2mg but the skin thing has been off putting, but not so much to stop, but titration up is unlikely. Like to try these two options next. EZ Peptides didn't show any in stock. Any other USA source recommendations out there? Thanks.
@markgroce Peptira and Peptidology have Survodutide in stock. I got from them. Nextaph has kits and much cheaper, but the stock is slightly old if that's not an issue for you. EZ is showing Survodutide in stock too. Did you check correctly?
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@pep_researcher How are you doing on this?
I have MazD and will be starting it Tues. Pinning Tirz on Sat.
@F8hnGM4Eva Missed this question.
Rat is doing fine. The scale isn't moving very fast but rat has been weight training with a trainer, hitting more protein, and recently a bunch of people told that
has shrunk a lot. So
is not paying much attention to absolute values on scale.
can also lift a lot more than a few months ago. -
For those on the ghetto reta, tell me what I should do. I'm playing with 6mg tirz and 2.4 survo. Ever since I started upping the survo my food noise is back and I'm eating more (probably getting close to 2000 cal, I'm 6'3, 308 lbs, was 376 in Jan). I don't like that the food noise is back. Do I up the survo or up the tirz to get rid of the food cravings? Previous week I lost 5 lbs, this last week I didn't lose any. I have a long way to go.
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For those on the ghetto reta, tell me what I should do. I'm playing with 6mg tirz and 2.4 survo. Ever since I started upping the survo my food noise is back and I'm eating more (probably getting close to 2000 cal, I'm 6'3, 308 lbs, was 376 in Jan). I don't like that the food noise is back. Do I up the survo or up the tirz to get rid of the food cravings? Previous week I lost 5 lbs, this last week I didn't lose any. I have a long way to go.
@Hammertime65 you could up tirz and back off survo. I have read the survo can increase hunger.
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@mhf Blends are not recommended in case of GLP-1s. You can stack separately. It has something to do with individual compound's pH and interactions.
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For those on the ghetto reta, tell me what I should do. I'm playing with 6mg tirz and 2.4 survo. Ever since I started upping the survo my food noise is back and I'm eating more (probably getting close to 2000 cal, I'm 6'3, 308 lbs, was 376 in Jan). I don't like that the food noise is back. Do I up the survo or up the tirz to get rid of the food cravings? Previous week I lost 5 lbs, this last week I didn't lose any. I have a long way to go.
@Hammertime65 It's definitely not your imagination. I started survo last week at 0.6 with tirz 8 to 10. I am ravenous sometimes with a real sweet tooth. Food noise never stops! Very weird. Other than that, I feel no different and still in stall. I'm just going to hold here and see what happens with the survo and not up the dose. I have no itch at all. Someone in post above said magnesium helps eliminate itch and I can vouch for that because of Re-Mag; it's the best around and not cost prohibitive; 1/4 to 1/2 TEAspoon per liter of H2O, take that seriously. I inject Tirz on Thurs and Survo on Friday. I'm worried that if I wait until day 3 or 4 after the Tirz titer drops, then do the Survo, my hunger will get out of control. I'm okay so far. Just waiting to see what happens. Good luck.
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@Hammertime65 It's definitely not your imagination. I started survo last week at 0.6 with tirz 8 to 10. I am ravenous sometimes with a real sweet tooth. Food noise never stops! Very weird. Other than that, I feel no different and still in stall. I'm just going to hold here and see what happens with the survo and not up the dose. I have no itch at all. Someone in post above said magnesium helps eliminate itch and I can vouch for that because of Re-Mag; it's the best around and not cost prohibitive; 1/4 to 1/2 TEAspoon per liter of H2O, take that seriously. I inject Tirz on Thurs and Survo on Friday. I'm worried that if I wait until day 3 or 4 after the Tirz titer drops, then do the Survo, my hunger will get out of control. I'm okay so far. Just waiting to see what happens. Good luck.
@Eleanor @hammertime65 Interesting about food noise. My experience is different.
I've been researching 5mg Tirz + gradually upped Survo to now 1.2mg stack for over a month now. I'm glad that my hunger is back because on 10mg Tirzepatide research I was miserably starving and fatigued. On this stack even though my hunger is back, I can't eat a lot. I get full very quickly.
My weight has moved only a little, but I've decided to not obsess over it, take it easy as I'm not in an obese zone anymore.
Will switch to Reta after these Tirz and Survo vials are done. That will be the first time me jumping on Reta for a serious research after 6 months on tirz.
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@Eleanor @hammertime65 Interesting about food noise. My experience is different.
I've been researching 5mg Tirz + gradually upped Survo to now 1.2mg stack for over a month now. I'm glad that my hunger is back because on 10mg Tirzepatide research I was miserably starving and fatigued. On this stack even though my hunger is back, I can't eat a lot. I get full very quickly.
My weight has moved only a little, but I've decided to not obsess over it, take it easy as I'm not in an obese zone anymore.
Will switch to Reta after these Tirz and Survo vials are done. That will be the first time me jumping on Reta for a serious research after 6 months on tirz.
@pep_researcher I get full easier too, but I get hungry more often. It's real odd. I didn't feel that way when I was strictly on Tirz.
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