@mmp Aren’t we talking UBT? But I see your point. In the Phase Ia single-dose trial in healthy subjects, across the 1.0–4.5 mg dose range the mean half-life for each dose arm was 137–170 hours, which supported once-weekly dosing. That's roughly 5.7–7 days, consistent with once-weekly subcutaneous injection. Hard to beat the Elora-Tirz stack.

Similar...I've been on Reta since late Feb, and finally hit my goal weight 3 weeks ago (165 down from 217). I only maxed out at 4mg/week and lowered my dose to 3.5mg last week and this week. Will plan to continue reducing by .5mg every couple of weeks.

Do not use a spacer; it will most certainly break the pen. Been there, done that. Listen to @randy. They get stuck in that position and even if you manage to get the plunger back down, it will never be accurate again.

Yeah i guess we want best testing but yes while we see alot of prices come down with competition some may keep higher price with more testing. My issue, Some prices ie tirz i can get compounded pharma grade for few bucks more than the top peptide places Even with testing i have been on prescription tesa/ipa, tirz, bpc, semax,motsc. And yet i get same peps that at times have zero effect or far less meaning it was junk or lower qty of actual active ingredient. And these are from some top rated peptide places. At point are the peptide places worth it.. if they dont clean up the crooks and have 100% tested legitinate stuff, as coumpounding becomes more available for common peps, as long as price doesnt sky rocket there will be some give and take.

@jdot said: all of these resellers Maybe I didn't say clearly. All stateside resellers do not lyophilize. Only some do and usually they say it aloud on their sites as a mark of trustworthiness.

@jdot Didn't down vote your post but the thread was pretty easy to follow if you read it.

Food design to be addictive https://youtu.be/6DAbx5vkslo?is=DoAAWjRJubMQB32F

Chain of custody or it didn’t happen.

@randallchampion ummm your pushing the air out of the vial to let liquid fill the void. You're searching for a solution without a problem

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@Randy Thank you sir. Will do my homework. I heard it on the fly and couldn't find any info.

In addition to the other comments, I imagine both sites buy wholesale from Hospira by the pallet. This is just the newest batch. The bottle I bought a few months ago "expire" in late 2028.

@iamsomebody said: Thank you for this, my expectations were no where near the results! Now do freeze, thaw , freeze thaw. Does the freezing and thawing Degrade the peptides as much as we think? How many times can they be frozen and thawed before they reach 95% or 90%? This would be a great test. Also testing other peps besides Reta/Tirz to know definitively which peps are the most sensitive.

The only things I do room temp is peps that are known for gelling like ARA. 90% of the time I recon chilled pep and chilled bac, and do so without issue.

@Randy said: yeah these are neat. You have to pull your cartridge out after use because they cant be stored in the fridge. sounds useless then

Hmm...maybe be back up after the weekend. I wonder if they are launching a new site.

I have v2, v3 ultra, v4, xulin from the store here (https://peptidecritic.com/store) and one or two from amazon. I think V2s. I like the normal pen cap over the spring loaded version. It isn't like they get dirty but I like not having a hole in the pen over the vial. Beyond that the v3 ultra and xulin have the smoothest action to me. For my money I'd say go v3 ultra or xulin. The main benefit of a longer needle than you can get on a pen (again just my opinion) are if you want to to deliver something intramuscular, want to go deeper to get closer to tissue (some bpc/tb howtos I've seen suggest deeper injections near the injury) or are doing a large shot (.5ml+ like lipo-c) and want to get it deeper to avoid lumps on the skin. Beyond that normal pen needles in 29g can be found long enough to do angled injections into your research animal.

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I wouldn't click that link...lol

Used them for some onsale