I noticed that some vendors are switching to USP61 from USP71 for sterility testing. I'll preface this with... learning still in progress Doesn't this raise a concern? USP71 = 14+ day wait, USP61 = 5 day wait. It seems like they are trading off quality for faster turnaround? @randy your thoughts on this?

@Bricks are they providing extensive testing?? My guess is no. A kit of tirz 30 can be had for as low as $80. We don't do "trust me bro it's the real thing" in this space.

@Sable-Darqness said in Pinning Pain: My experience was injecting GHK-Ck in the love handle was plumb brutal. Hurt for a week I have to pin GHK-cu in my glutes

@tbone I started twice a day at .5mg. Did some experimenting and found .333mg x2 a day to be effective. On bad days I do .5mg x2 a day. After a pause in research I accidentally dosed 2mg at once and had no adverse effects other then being pain and inflammation free for a few hours after waking up. YMMV

i have bought 7 pens in total from 3 different vendors i've not had any jam up , that said i am a bit supicious of the accuracy of two of them

Looking to the future for my rat when he hits goal weight with reta thinking about shifting back to tirzepatide for maintainance for appetite suppression and lower cost.Has anyone done this snd how has it worked out?

@Randy said in Looking for help with Vendor Selection: Ive never heard of oath. New ones that "look good" pop up daily. mile high has stringent testing. ezpeptides has great prices and good testing. im sure others on here have some recs for RUO vendors. My advice - skip oath. Are the ones in your directory all stringent on testing for endotoxins, etc.? Or just on purity/accuracy? Even though buying stateside through sites like these is probably steeper financially than other avenues, I would like to hope that because they're stateside, don't require btc to pay, and are vetted through this site that they're better about that stuff and worth the added cost.

Agree, patients and baby steps. On my first Reta vial I started w .5mg on my first week. I felt it right away within my first the week. Second and third week I titrated to 1mg. Fourth I titrated to 2mg. My goal was to eventually max 4mg. I had to dialed it down because I started to feel allodynia. Lesson here is find your sweet spot. With enough hunger to supplement a heathy diet of protein at the center of your meal to prevent muscle loss. Find your sweet spot, mine still is 1mg of Reta and 1mg of MOTs-C and NAD+ daily or every other day.

it opened! I will check it out later today!

My pet hedgehog will sit for hours watching This is not Covered - Dr Froese on YouTube. He stumbled on her and liked the easy way she breaks things down in a real way. It really put him at ease when we started researching. We trust this channel as much as you can trust any channel and watching her channel evolve has been informational as well. Highly recommend starting with her channel for an intro. Also, @randy has done a phenomenal job gathering resources and providing information. The individuals in these forums have been a benefit to me as I read them. As you will see everywhere, start slow, monitor results, and do one thing at a time. Peptides aren't necessarily quick fixes; we research to optimize. Optimization takes time, monitoring through measuring, and patience. Everybody is a different body; keep that in mind as you begin. This is why monitoring and recording are critical in every science research experiment. Good Luck!

@ResearchCat said in Order of Operation for Protocol Cycles: Welcome! This is a big topic. My rule #1 is to go slow. Rule #2 is to know what you are researching, why, and what you hope to get out of it. And track results. (Yeah, keep a journal.) Popular peptides often work on one of 3 general interaction pipelines. Josh Holyfield has a good video explaining which is which. It often doesn’t make sense to research 3 different things that all affect the same target. I research Glow for extended periods(2-3 months) while also cycling CJC/Ipa or other GHRH and currently MOTS-C/NAD+ over shorter periods. I think it is probably fine researching epitalon with pretty much anything else, though I usually research it when not running a bunch of other stuff(for no particular reason.) So I guess if you are researching a protocol someone recommended that you trust, you can go ahead and follow that. If you want to see what specific results you get from a particular peptide, the fewer other things involved will help with that. FWIW, I recently cycled off CJC/Ipa(assume no DAC) and GLOW, am currently researching MOTS-C/NAD+, also very low dose Tirz, and in a week or two will begin researching tesa and KLOW. I tend to plan a lot, but in this area I am generally thinking a few months out and make changes when it seems appropriate. For stuff like epitalon that one generally researches 1-2 times a year, I have a mental note that I will run it around June or something. I hope my rambling is helpful. Thanks for the info.

@AnRick yeah I think so. I do not have a specific internet source I can personally recommend. A good friend of mine has a great source and I place orders through him. There are tons of reviews here on the site to steer you in the right direction.

Very little talk of the accelerating tissue repair aspect. Has anyone else experimented with different sites specifically for that? I've found the back of the shoulders, beside the kneecap [inner and outer] to be great. Above the kneecap and elbow not so much. I've also noticed that if feels better to hit a joint the night before working out on it, instead of the night you did. This is with 2.5mg dosage: 50mg-10mL for 2, 25unit injections.

it can do this when it goes in and out of a freezer a few times. As long as it holds vacuum its PROBABLY fine. I dont do probably

@Stan-Douglas said in Freeze vs Refrigerate vs cool dark place: From what I understand as of now... moisture is your enemy for unconstituted [is that a word?] peps. I store mine in the freezer regardless of when I plan to begin using, in the original storage box, sealed in a ziplock freezer bag and now with -- I was reading up on this topic and it was suggested to add silica gel or desiccant packs -- I ordered "Color-Indicating Desiccant Packs for Storage, Rechargeable Silica Gel Packets" on Amazon to throw in each bag. Also advice I tripped across was to let your vials warm to room temp before adding your bac water. I use the packets, had no idea there were rechargeable ones.

Im no expert but thats a hard pass for me. Lets assume the COA's are for the batch being sold. If they have stock that old they are doing something wrong. Its not hard to make sales in this space. A tiktok post can sellout 300 bottles of reta in a couple days. So in the event they dont care enough to do that is it possible they dont care enough to keep them out of light and cool? A good example is nexaph T-30 batches are usually 3.000 kits and those sell out in presale or shortly after release.

@ratstudies I'm not going to do the math for you but yes it's reta and Cagrilentide

@afkar7 A Pep log would be a nice addition to the site tools. PClick on someone's name to see how serious there history is and how meticulous they are at keeping their records straight.

I have both and tried both. My personal opinion is, the Tesa/Ipa is way better then the CJC/Ipa. The CJC/pa made both me and my wife feel like shit, even at only 167mcg/167mcg once a day before bed. At 500mcg/500mcg it made us feel AWFUL. The 167mcg/167mcg did not help with sleep either. The CJC/Ipa cause a hot flushed feeling when you take it, kinda of like MT2. It didn’t help with sleep and the next morning I woke up feeling hung over. That being said, some people like it. Put it this way, I bought a kit from Nexaph (10 vials), I sent one vial out for testing, I mixed one vial and I have 8 vials left. I am just giving the 8 vials away….

@Commander Thanks for posting the link to that website - there is a ton of interesting info on it. Good details about the actual differences between CJC and Mod GRF 1-29.